From edies_hook at msn.com Mon Feb 1 15:04:22 2010 From: edies_hook at msn.com (Edith McKelvy) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:04:22 -0800 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] SS DRESDEN Ship/Immigrant Passenger List and Ship Crew List Message-ID: 1. Request your help in locating subject lists for SS DRESDEN, Bremen to Baltimore, arriving 28 July 1891. I have searched www.archives.gov Russians to America Passenger Data File 1834-1897 and www.Castlegarden.org and have located my (probable) great-uncle AUG(UST) REMPEL travelling on this journey. I would like to scan the entire manifest for possible relatives/neighbors who may have been travelling with him. However, these searches requires surnames, and of course I won't know what surname to ask for until I have seen all possibilities. 2. On the other hand, this may not be my great-uncle at all. Family lore indicates that he spent 3 years alone in U.S. between his marriage in 1890 and his immigration with family in 1896 to Madison SD. From edies_hook at msn.com Mon Feb 1 15:07:40 2010 From: edies_hook at msn.com (Edith McKelvy) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:07:40 -0800 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] FW: SS DRESDEN Ship/Immigrant Passenger List and Ship Crew List Message-ID: Oops, I hit the Send button too soon! Thank you in advance for any assistance. Edith Rimple McKelvy Silverdale WA _____ From: Edith McKelvy [mailto:edies_hook at msn.com] Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:04 PM To: GPPR-GRHS; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Subject: SS DRESDEN Ship/Immigrant Passenger List and Ship Crew List 1. Request your help in locating subject lists for SS DRESDEN, Bremen to Baltimore, arriving 28 July 1891. I have searched www.archives.gov Russians to America Passenger Data File 1834-1897 and www.Castlegarden.org and have located my (probable) great-uncle AUG(UST) REMPEL travelling on this journey. I would like to scan the entire manifest for possible relatives/neighbors who may have been travelling with him. However, these searches requires surnames, and of course I won't know what surname to ask for until I have seen all possibilities. 2. On the other hand, this may not be my great-uncle at all. Family lore indicates that he spent 3 years alone in U.S. between his marriage in 1890 and his immigration with family in 1896 to Madison SD. From FoxeGenie at aol.com Mon Feb 1 15:25:55 2010 From: FoxeGenie at aol.com (FoxeGenie@aol.com) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:25:55 EST Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Strand(t) family, Mecklenburg to Eastern Prussia (J.Pessarra) Message-ID: <8ad1.5fd24402.3898bd03@aol.com> Joe & Others Joe - I like the way you are able to help others with the German telephone directory and hope you could give me some assistance too. I have been researching my Strand(t) family that were found in Eastern Prussia in the Paproc Duza Records for my gg-grandparents. My GG-Grandfather Theodore Strandt being born 1831. Many families that settled there came from the Mecklenburg area and I see many Strand(t)s in the Pomerania (Pommern) area but no real contacts. I would like to see if there are any telephone listings for Strand(t) families that I could contact in the Pomerania area. Thank you, Geneen Giberson From FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca Mon Feb 1 15:42:39 2010 From: FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca (Jerry Frank) Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:42:39 -0700 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Strand(t) family, Mecklenburg to Eastern Prussia (J.Pessarra) In-Reply-To: <8ad1.5fd24402.3898bd03@aol.com> References: <8ad1.5fd24402.3898bd03@aol.com> Message-ID: Just to be clear, Geneen (and others who may be able to respond), Paproc Duza was in Russian Poland, not Eastern Prussia. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: FoxeGenie at aol.com Date: Monday, February 1, 2010 4:29 pm Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Strand(t) family, Mecklenburg to Eastern Prussia (J.Pessarra) To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > Joe & Others > ? > Joe - I like the way you are able to help others with the German > telephone? > directory and hope you could give me some assistance too. > ? > I have been researching my Strand(t) family that were found in > Eastern? > Prussia in the Paproc Duza Records for my gg-grandparents. My GG- > Grandfather? > Theodore Strandt being born 1831. Many families that settled > there came from > the? Mecklenburg area and I see many Strand(t)s in the > Pomerania (Pommern) > area but? no real contacts. > ? > I would like to see if there are any telephone listings for > Strand(t)? > families that I could contact in the Pomerania area. > ? > Thank you, > Geneen Giberson > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > From joepessarra at suddenlink.net Mon Feb 1 17:28:36 2010 From: joepessarra at suddenlink.net (joepessarra) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 19:28:36 -0600 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Strand(t) family, Mecklenburg to Eastern Prussia (J.Pessarra) In-Reply-To: <8ad1.5fd24402.3898bd03@aol.com> References: <8ad1.5fd24402.3898bd03@aol.com> Message-ID: <004d01caa3a7$0abaf150$2030d3f0$@net> -----Original Message----- From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of FoxeGenie at aol.com Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 5:26 PM To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Strand(t) family, Mecklenburg to Eastern Prussia (J.Pessarra) Joe & Others Joe - I like the way you are able to help others with the German telephone directory and hope you could give me some assistance too. I have been researching my Strand(t) family that were found in Eastern Prussia in the Paproc Duza Records for my gg-grandparents. My GG-Grandfather Theodore Strandt being born 1831. Many families that settled there came from the Mecklenburg area and I see many Strand(t)s in the Pomerania (Pommern) area but no real contacts. I would like to see if there are any telephone listings for Strand(t) families that I could contact in the Pomerania area. Thank you, Geneen Giberson _______________________________________________ Germany telephone directory at http://www3.dastelefonbuch.de/ has 16 hits for Strandt in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern Federal State. There are also 23 Strand hits, but only two are private residential, the rest are business names. Looked for Strandt and Strand in Paproc Duza in Poland telephone directory, but unable to find any. Will do some more looking in nearby towns to see if I manage to find any still there. Let me know directly if you have a problem using the Germany telephone directory. Good luck, Joe in Texas From gary at warnerengineering.com Mon Feb 1 19:19:37 2010 From: gary at warnerengineering.com (Gary Warner) Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:19:37 -0800 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] SS DRESDEN Ship/Immigrant Passenger List and Ship Crew List In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B6799C9.4080903@warnerengineering.com> Edith, If you go to the Stephen Morse One-Step webpage and do a search for the Baltimore arrivals on 28 July 1891, you can see all 774 passengers. The link is http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=bpl&cj=1&pcc=2&f25=jul*+28+1891&yearend=10000&hc=50&rank=0&fh=0&year=0&o_xid=0002370638&o_lid=0002370638 You can view the names without an ancestry.com account, but you will need an account to see the actual manifest Gary Warner On 2/1/2010 3:04 PM, Edith McKelvy wrote: > 1. Request your help in locating subject lists for SS DRESDEN, Bremen to > Baltimore, arriving 28 July 1891. > > I have searched www.archives.gov Russians to America Passenger Data File > 1834-1897 and www.Castlegarden.org > > and have located my (probable) great-uncle AUG(UST) REMPEL travelling on > this journey. > > I would like to scan the entire manifest for possible relatives/neighbors > who may have been travelling with him. > > However, these searches requires surnames, and of course I won't know what > surname to ask for until I have seen all possibilities. > > 2. On the other hand, this may not be my great-uncle at all. Family lore > indicates that he spent 3 years alone in U.S. between his marriage in 1890 > and his immigration with family in 1896 to Madison SD. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > From gary at warnerengineering.com Mon Feb 1 19:28:19 2010 From: gary at warnerengineering.com (Gary Warner) Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:28:19 -0800 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] SS DRESDEN Ship/Immigrant Passenger List and Ship Crew List In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B679BD3.9080004@warnerengineering.com> Edith, Further to my last email, I do not see any August Rempel on the ship and date that you note. Gary On 2/1/2010 3:04 PM, Edith McKelvy wrote: > 1. Request your help in locating subject lists for SS DRESDEN, Bremen to > Baltimore, arriving 28 July 1891. > > I have searched www.archives.gov Russians to America Passenger Data File > 1834-1897 and www.Castlegarden.org > > and have located my (probable) great-uncle AUG(UST) REMPEL travelling on > this journey. > > I would like to scan the entire manifest for possible relatives/neighbors > who may have been travelling with him. > > However, these searches requires surnames, and of course I won't know what > surname to ask for until I have seen all possibilities. > > 2. On the other hand, this may not be my great-uncle at all. Family lore > indicates that he spent 3 years alone in U.S. between his marriage in 1890 > and his immigration with family in 1896 to Madison SD. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > From GHBoehm at ish.de Tue Feb 2 01:56:39 2010 From: GHBoehm at ish.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_B=F6hm?=) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:56:39 +0100 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Strand(t) family, Mecklenburg to Eastern Prussia (J.Pessarra) In-Reply-To: <8ad1.5fd24402.3898bd03@aol.com> References: <8ad1.5fd24402.3898bd03@aol.com> Message-ID: <4B67F6D7.4080003@ish.de> FoxeGenie at aol.com schrieb: > Joe - I like the way you are able to help others with the German telephone > directory and hope you could give me some assistance too. > > I have been researching my Strand(t) family that were found in Eastern > Prussia in the Paproc Duza Records for my gg-grandparents. My GG-Grandfather > Theodore Strandt being born 1831. Many families that settled there came from > the Mecklenburg area and I see many Strand(t)s in the Pomerania (Pommern) > area but no real contacts. > > I would like to see if there are any telephone listings for Strand(t) > families that I could contact in the Pomerania area. > Hello Geneen, just to clarify the regional frame: after 1945, the former Prussian and German province of Mecklenburg and the remaining western part of Pommern have been united to the new province of Mecklenburg in 1947 and again to the federal state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern in 1990. So I suppose you are just searching the western districts of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (the former grand duchy of Mecklenburg consisting of the duchies of Mecklenburg-Schwerin and Mecklenburg-Strelitz). The districts of Nordvorpommern (5 events), Demmin (3 events) and Uecker-Randow (4 events) as well as the city of Neubrandenburg may be of less interest - though some of the ancestors might haved migrated within the Prussian provinces. Mecklenburg: STRANDT Meiklyn Am Weinberg 27 19386 L?bz 038731 20202 STRANDT Norbert Gillhoffstr. 16 19370 Parchim 03871 217801 STRANDT Elsbeth 18057 Rostock (cell phone) 0177 7428871 STRANDT Wolfgang Im Heuschober 41 18059 Rostock 0381 443504 Vorpommern: STRANDT Gert M?hlenstr. 21B 18375 Ostseebad Prerow 038233 69383 STRANDT Uwe Burgstr. 12B 17159 Dargun 039959 21320 STRANDT Horst Zarnekow 20 17159 Dargun 039959 20792 STRANDT Hans Friedrich-List-Str. 1 18437 Stralsund 03831 290029 STRANDT Hans-Dieter Karl-Fr?hlich-Str. 24 18437 Stralsund 03831 305315 STRANDT Karin Prohner Str. 29 18435 Stralsund 03831 391552 STRANDT Christel Hermann-Burmeister-Str. 11 18435 Stralsund 03831 396524 STRANDT Fritz Dorfstr. 22A 18510 Wittenhagen 038327 40330 STRANDT Hans Stra?e der Befreiung 29 18507 Grimmen 038326 3440 STRANDT Renate Beestland 48 17111 Warrenzin 03998 360180 Good luck, G?nther From GHBoehm at ish.de Tue Feb 2 02:01:58 2010 From: GHBoehm at ish.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_B=F6hm?=) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:01:58 +0100 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Strand(t) family, Mecklenburg to Eastern Prussia (J.Pessarra) In-Reply-To: <4B67F6D7.4080003@ish.de> References: <8ad1.5fd24402.3898bd03@aol.com> <4B67F6D7.4080003@ish.de> Message-ID: <4B67F816.1090509@ish.de> G?nther B?hm schrieb: > though some of the ancestors might haved migrated within the Prussian > provinces. Geneen, sorry, I forgot one: STRANDT Klaus u. Ingelore Semmelweisstr. 35 17036 Neubrandenburg 0395 7780258 G?nther From zsorba99 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 2 07:33:20 2010 From: zsorba99 at yahoo.com (Allyn Brosz) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:33:20 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] SS DRESDEN Ship/Immigrant Passenger List and Ship Crew List Message-ID: Edith, I didn't find any information for August Rempel arriving in Baltimore 28 July 1891. However, I did find the following, which you may already have: U.S. Federal Census for 1900 -- South Dakota, Lake County, Wayne Township REMPEL, August, born August 1867, age 43 [sic]; Victoria, born 1863, age 37; three children, two of whom are living; Amelia, 14; Edward, 11. They are recorded as having arrived in the U.S. in 1896. Looking further, I found an entry in the U.S. Border Crossings from Canada for the August Rimpel [sic] family, including August, 33; Victoria, 30; Emilie, 8; Eduard, 7; Marie, 3; Wilhelm, 1. Also, Friedrich Rimpel, 30; Anna, 28; and Frederick Lewis Angloman Rimpel, 4 days old, born at sea on about 12 May 1896. The infant's middle name was the name of the ship on which he was born, the S.S. Angloman, Dominion Line, which departed Liverpool, England, on 7 May 1896 and arrived at Port Levis, Quebec, Canada, on 16 May 1896 at 11:30 p.m. The passengers were examined at 6:30 a.m. on 17 May 1896. The Rimpels/Rempels were listed as being from Russian Volhynia and traveling to Madison, South Dakota. I found no other Germans from Russia on this ship. The middle name of the infant rings a bell in my mind. I believe I may have extracted these passengers many years ago and submitted them for publication in AHSGR's Clues. Hope this helps Best Wishes for success in your search Allyn Brosz Washington, DC Besser a Glatze als gar kein Hoor! On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 05:03, wrote: > Send Ger-Poland-Volhynia mailing list submissions to > ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Edith McKelvy" > To: "GPPR-GRHS" , > Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:04:22 -0800 > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] SS DRESDEN Ship/Immigrant Passenger List and > Ship Crew List > 1. Request your help in locating subject lists for SS DRESDEN, Bremen to > Baltimore, arriving 28 July 1891. > > I have searched www.archives.gov Russians to America Passenger Data > File > 1834-1897 and www.Castlegarden.org > > and have located my (probable) great-uncle AUG(UST) REMPEL travelling on > this journey. > > I would like to scan the entire manifest for possible relatives/neighbors > who may have been travelling with him. > > However, these searches requires surnames, and of course I won't know what > surname to ask for until I have seen all possibilities. > > 2. On the other hand, this may not be my great-uncle at all. Family lore > indicates that he spent 3 years alone in U.S. between his marriage in 1890 > and his immigration with family in 1896 to Madison SD. > > From gary.gritke at sympatico.ca Tue Feb 2 11:56:58 2010 From: gary.gritke at sympatico.ca (Gary Gritke) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 14:56:58 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] mailing list Message-ID: please take my name off your mailing list. Thank-you. From FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca Tue Feb 2 12:35:32 2010 From: FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca (Jerry Frank) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:35:32 -0700 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] mailing list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just a reminder to all subscribers: We don't have major problems with this but please do remember not to post administrative issues to the mailing list.? If you are having problems with the automated systems available (you are reminded about this on the first day of every month), please contact me directly for assistance. Thank you. Jerry Frank List Asministrator ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Gritke Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 1:05 pm Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] mailing list To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > > please take my name off your mailing list. Thank- > you.??????????????????????????????????????????????? > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > From edies_hook at msn.com Fri Feb 5 13:42:42 2010 From: edies_hook at msn.com (Edith McKelvy) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 13:42:42 -0800 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] SS DRESDEN Ship/Immigrant Passenger List and Ship Crew List AUGUST RIMPEL Message-ID: Thanks to all who responded to my query. I was able to access actual images for the Baltimore Passenger List for SS Dresden arriving 28 Jul 1891 Bremen>Baltimore at my local library (Ancestry Library.com). Found (probable) AUGUST REMPEL listed as "Any Renepel" and his friend ADOLF GUENTHER listed as "Adolf Ginter". This coincides with info shown at Castle Garden below. (My sincere sympathy and appreciation for all transcribers -- take a look at the original image they had to work with!). This info seems to validate info found on "List or Manifest of Alien Immigrants" dtd 7 May 1896 where AUGUST RIMPEL indicates that he had previously been in U.S. for three years and planned to meet "friend Adolf Guenther in Madison SD". Speculate that August traveled to U.S. to earn some money, leaving wife/children behind, then returned to "old country" to assemble his family and his younger brother's family for immigration to U.S. in 1896 -- a common thread in immigrant stories. Edith Rimple McKelvy Silverdale WA -----Original Message----- From: Gary Warner [mailto:gary at warnerengineering.com] Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 7:20 PM To: Edith McKelvy Cc: GPPR-GRHS; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] SS DRESDEN Ship/Immigrant Passenger List and Ship Crew List Edith, If you go to the Stephen Morse One-Step webpage and do a search for the Baltimore arrivals on 28 July 1891, you can see all 774 passengers. The link is http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=bpl&cj=1&pcc=2&f25=jul*+28+189 1&yearend=10000&hc=50&rank=0&fh=0&year=0&o_xid=0002370638&o_lid=0002370638 You can view the names without an ancestry.com account, but you will need an account to see the actual manifest Gary Warner On 2/1/2010 3:04 PM, Edith McKelvy wrote: > 1. Request your help in locating subject lists for SS DRESDEN, Bremen > to Baltimore, arriving 28 July 1891. > > I have searched www.archives.gov Russians to America Passenger Data File > 1834-1897 and www.Castlegarden.org > > and have located my (probable) great-uncle AUG(UST) REMPEL travelling > on this journey. > > I would like to scan the entire manifest for possible > relatives/neighbors who may have been travelling with him. > > However, these searches requires surnames, and of course I won't know > what surname to ask for until I have seen all possibilities. > > 2. On the other hand, this may not be my great-uncle at all. Family > lore indicates that he spent 3 years alone in U.S. between his > marriage in 1890 and his immigration with family in 1896 to Madison SD. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German > Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at > http://www.sggee.org/listserv > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2663 - Release Date: 02/01/10 23:35:00 From roseingram at shaw.ca Fri Feb 5 14:31:06 2010 From: roseingram at shaw.ca (Rose Ingram) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:31:06 -0800 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] SS DRESDEN Ship/Immigrant Passenger List andShip Crew List AUGUST RIMPEL References: Message-ID: <00ea01caa6b2$e8470b40$6601a8c0@duocore> Congratulations Edith. I suspect 'Any" may really be a sloppy written "Aug" or incorrect transcription. Rose Ingram ----- Original Message ----- From: Edith McKelvy To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org ; GPPR-GRHS Cc: gary at warnerengineering.com Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:42 PM Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] SS DRESDEN Ship/Immigrant Passenger List andShip Crew List AUGUST RIMPEL Thanks to all who responded to my query. I was able to access actual images for the Baltimore Passenger List for SS Dresden arriving 28 Jul 1891 Bremen>Baltimore at my local library (Ancestry Library.com). Found (probable) AUGUST REMPEL listed as "Any Renepel" and his friend ADOLF GUENTHER listed as "Adolf Ginter". This coincides with info shown at Castle Garden below. (My sincere sympathy and appreciation for all transcribers -- take a look at the original image they had to work with!). This info seems to validate info found on "List or Manifest of Alien Immigrants" dtd 7 May 1896 where AUGUST RIMPEL indicates that he had previously been in U.S. for three years and planned to meet "friend Adolf Guenther in Madison SD". Speculate that August traveled to U.S. to earn some money, leaving wife/children behind, then returned to "old country" to assemble his family and his younger brother's family for immigration to U.S. in 1896 -- a common thread in immigrant stories. Edith Rimple McKelvy Silverdale WA -----Original Message----- From: Gary Warner [mailto:gary at warnerengineering.com] Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 7:20 PM To: Edith McKelvy Cc: GPPR-GRHS; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] SS DRESDEN Ship/Immigrant Passenger List and Ship Crew List Edith, If you go to the Stephen Morse One-Step webpage and do a search for the Baltimore arrivals on 28 July 1891, you can see all 774 passengers. The link is http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=bpl&cj=1&pcc=2&f25=jul*+28+189 1&yearend=10000&hc=50&rank=0&fh=0&year=0&o_xid=0002370638&o_lid=0002370638 You can view the names without an ancestry.com account, but you will need an account to see the actual manifest Gary Warner On 2/1/2010 3:04 PM, Edith McKelvy wrote: > 1. Request your help in locating subject lists for SS DRESDEN, Bremen > to Baltimore, arriving 28 July 1891. > > I have searched www.archives.gov Russians to America Passenger Data File > 1834-1897 and www.Castlegarden.org > > and have located my (probable) great-uncle AUG(UST) REMPEL travelling > on this journey. > > I would like to scan the entire manifest for possible > relatives/neighbors who may have been travelling with him. > > However, these searches requires surnames, and of course I won't know > what surname to ask for until I have seen all possibilities. > > 2. On the other hand, this may not be my great-uncle at all. Family > lore indicates that he spent 3 years alone in U.S. between his > marriage in 1890 and his immigration with family in 1896 to Madison SD. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German > Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at > http://www.sggee.org/listserv > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2663 - Release Date: 02/01/10 23:35:00 _______________________________________________ Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv From cwowretusmc at msn.com Fri Feb 5 16:30:21 2010 From: cwowretusmc at msn.com (David Wyble Sr) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 19:30:21 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Weibel/Webel/Wyble Etc. Message-ID: At this point I am lost. Can anyone help me with locating my ancestors. Your help will be greatly appreciated. David W Wyble Sr Information received below from Ancestor Seekers researchers at Salt Lake City Family History Center George Born abt 1704 possibley Schmelz, Saarlouis Georg Weble resided in the following places: 1725 Roderbach near Dhronecken 1726 Abentheuer 1729-1732 Nonnweiler 1735- St. Ingbert 1759 Died in Zusch Death of Georg Webel Katholische Kirche Zusch (kr. Trier), Kirchenbuch, 1700-1892, FHL Film 531295 On the 13th of December 1759 after being fortified by all the last rites died Georgius Webel hammersmith and was buried in the cemetery in Birckenfeld. May he rest in peace, Amen. The family History Library has a genealogy book for the town of Zusch where Georg Webel was found: Walter Petto, Einwohner von Zusch, Neuhutten, Damflos 1574 is 1820, FHL Book 943.42/Z1 D2p #1089 Georg Webel, Hammersmith, catholic 1725 Roderbach, 1726 Abentheuer, 1729 Nonnweiler, finally of Schmelz died 13 December 1759 in Schmelz First marriage: Anna Dorothea Familienbch von Nonnweiler (Nonnweile famil book) 1679-1820 (FHL Book 043.42/N5 D29j) has the following information. #1171 married before 1729 Georg Weibel, residing in Nonnweiler Anna Dorothea Children: Elisabeth, baptized 13 February 1729 Helena, married Peter Will on 28 Jlu 1759 #1172 married before 1756 Karl Weibel, hammersmith in Nonnweiler Susanna Moser (Moher), baptized in Kaiserslautem Children: Helena, baptized 11 February 1756 Note: Family History Center in Salt Lake City has a CD Rom that contains other family books that were compiled by Rudi Jung. Second marriage: 30 October 1752 in Zusch to Katharina Crampong. She is from Rinzenberg and a widow of Christian Butterbach (see #143). She died 7 September 1793 in Schmelz, age 88 years. Additional Information: Marriage of Georg Webel and Catharina Crampong: Children: Markus Webel Christing 08 Sept 1754 Zuesch, Rheinland, Prussen (FHC Source) Markus W. marriage 23-6-1762 of Zusch to Anna Elisabeth Muno Christing 31 May 1762 Zuesch, Rheinland Prussia Markus 2nd marriage was to Susanna Katherine Dellwo christing 28Sept 1777 Zuesch, Rhienland, Prussia Death 19 Feb 1837 Katholisce Kirche Zusch ( Kr. Trier), Kirchenbuch, 1700-1892, FHM Film 531295 Today, the 30 October 1752 after three proclamations were made at the church, and no oppositions were given, were married by me in the church: the respectable Georgius Webel, widower, and the virtuous Catharina Crampong, widow of the deceased Christian Puderbag. Witnessed by Jacob Kropp and Nicolas Lay. M. Hingely, curate and chaplain. Death of Catharina Crampong Katholische Kirche Zusch ( Kr. Trier), Kirchenbch, 1700-1892, FHL Film 531295. & September (1793) after being fortified by the last rites died Catharina Webel, widow, from Schmelz, age 88 years. May she rest in pease. Their children are: 1. Elisabeth, baptized 3 February 1729 in Nonnweiler, baptismal sponsors were George Baldauff and Elisabeth Haubert, both of Nonnweiler. Markus, baptized 8 September 1754 in Zusch (see # 1090), baptismal sponsors were Markus Grill, blacksmith in Nonnweiler, and Ann Mria Schneidr of Abentheuer. Katholische Kirche Zusch ( Kr. Trier), Kirchenbch, 1700-1892, FHL Film 531295 8th September (1754) was baptized Marcus, legitimate son of Georg Webel and Catharina, couple and hammersmith. Godparents were Marcus Gril, ironmonger from Abentheuer, and Anna Maria Schneider from Abentheuer. The Genealogy book of Zusch gives information about Markus Webel who was the son of Georg Webel and Katharina Crampong. Karl Weibel married before 1756 to Moser, (Moher) Susanna Children: Helena, born 11 Feb 1756 The widower of Maria Tilken married a second time 11 Apr 1810 Weibel Peter, a shoemaker, born about 1770 in Nonnweiler son of W last name unkown and Katharina Weibel in Nonnweiler _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ From reiner at miericke.net Sat Feb 6 01:45:52 2010 From: reiner at miericke.net (Reiner Miericke) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 10:45:52 +0100 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] =?iso-8859-1?q?Ger-Poland-Volhynia_mailing_?= =?iso-8859-1?q?list=3A_Surname_R=F6ske_/_Roeske?= Message-ID: <201002061045.52761.reiner@miericke.net> Hello Eleanor and scott (and everybody on this mailing list) I just saw in the mailing list archive (2002, 2003) that you were searching for members of family R?ske (or written Roeske or Roske if you don't have german Umlauts on your keyboard). The mother of my grandfather is a Karoline Scherfer (Sch?rfer), maiden name R?ske. As far as I know her first child was Adolf, born 1876 in Bresalup. So my estimation is that she was born about 1845-1855. Do you have any information about this person? -- Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen Reiner Miericke From zwillingsopa at googlemail.com Sat Feb 6 04:10:10 2010 From: zwillingsopa at googlemail.com (Gerd) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:10:10 +0100 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] ANSPERGER Belchatow/Lodz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A friendly hello to the round, (PC Translation) I'm looking for information on the family Ansperger from Belchatow / Lodz. Unfortunately I do not have access to SGGEE. Can someone once and see if there more data is collected? Family ID: F182835 Husband ID: I492617 Josef ANSPERGER (*~1809) Wife ID: I492618 Juliane SATOLSKI (*~ 1813) Children ID: F182835 Marriage Date and Place? Many thanks and cordial greetings Gerd (K?ke) Ein freundliches Hallo in die Runde, ich suche Informationen zur Familie ANSPERGER aus Belchatow / Lodz. Leider habe ich keinen Zugriff auf SGGEE. Kann jemand mal nachsehen, ob dort weitere Daten erfasst sind? Family ID: F182835 Husband ID: I492617 Josef ANSPERGER (*~1809) Wife ID: I492618 Juliane SATOLSKI (*~ 1813) Children ID: F182835 Marriage Date and Place? Vielen Dank und freundliche Gr??e Gerd From reiner at miericke.net Sat Feb 6 04:39:43 2010 From: reiner at miericke.net (Reiner Miericke) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:39:43 +0100 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] =?iso-8859-1?q?Surname_R=F6ske?= Message-ID: <201002061339.43183.reiner@miericke.net> Sorry, my fault! I did not take into account that Karoline R?skes first child Adolph was born in Petrikau. And her husband Julius Scherfer is known to be born in Galkowek. So, Volhynia might be not the right place to look for their origin. From ra_stein at telus.net Sat Feb 6 08:22:10 2010 From: ra_stein at telus.net (Richard Stein) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 09:22:10 -0700 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] ANSPERGER Belchatow/Lodz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Gerd, There appears to be no recent Ansperger data. The only place that the name Ansperger appears is in Belchatow Lutheran church records. These were indexed some years ago and you probably already have the information - only 6 names. Perhaps there are alternate spellings of the name, for example a Polish equivalent, that you can search for. Sorry I can not be of more help. Dick Stein ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerd" To: Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:10 AM Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] ANSPERGER Belchatow/Lodz A friendly hello to the round, (PC Translation) I'm looking for information on the family Ansperger from Belchatow / Lodz. Unfortunately I do not have access to SGGEE. Can someone once and see if there more data is collected? Family ID: F182835 Husband ID: I492617 Josef ANSPERGER (*~1809) Wife ID: I492618 Juliane SATOLSKI (*~ 1813) Children ID: F182835 Marriage Date and Place? Many thanks and cordial greetings Gerd (K?ke) Ein freundliches Hallo in die Runde, ich suche Informationen zur Familie ANSPERGER aus Belchatow / Lodz. Leider habe ich keinen Zugriff auf SGGEE. Kann jemand mal nachsehen, ob dort weitere Daten erfasst sind? Family ID: F182835 Husband ID: I492617 Josef ANSPERGER (*~1809) Wife ID: I492618 Juliane SATOLSKI (*~ 1813) Children ID: F182835 Marriage Date and Place? Vielen Dank und freundliche Gr??e Gerd _______________________________________________ Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv From dr.stewner at t-online.de Sat Feb 6 09:12:55 2010 From: dr.stewner at t-online.de (Dr. Frank Stewner) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 18:12:55 +0100 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Georg Webel locations Message-ID: <125B53CCA10C468C9A5BD76116FA1F05@Acer> Information received below from Ancestor Seekers researchers at Salt Lake City Family History Center George Born abt 1704 possibley Schmelz, Saarlouis Georg Weble resided in the following places: 1725 Roderbach near Dhronecken 1726 Abentheuer 1729-1732 Nonnweiler 1735- St. Ingbert 1759 Died in Zusch I found no Roderbach near Dhronecken written as: Village, County, State, Country Dhronecken, Bernkastel-Willich, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany 49?43'34''N 06?59'00''E Abentheuer, Birkenfeld, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany 493858N 070607E Nonnweiler, St. Wendel, Saarland, Germany 493623N 065812E St. Ingbert, Saarpfalz, Saarland, Germany 493623N 065812 Zuesch, Trier-Saarburg, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany 493658N 070025E Neuhuetten, Trier-Saarburg, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany 493829N 070043E Schmelz [Neuh?tten-Schmelz], Trier-Saarburg, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany 493816N 070047E Rinzenberg, Birkenfeld, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany 494035N 070800E Damflos, Trier-Saarburg, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany 494007N 065903E Frank Stewner, Hamburg, Germany From dabookk54 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 12 09:40:16 2010 From: dabookk54 at yahoo.com (Karl Krueger) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:40:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Educate yourself about using the Lublin database Message-ID: <420954.63323.qm@web55305.mail.re4.yahoo.com> This is a general message sent to anyone who has interest in using the data publically available on the SGGEE Lublin database. First it appears many people have submitted money to the church in requesting specific records. At this time it seems only the pastor is able to fulfill those requests, however, he is often very busy, travels often, and may require extra time to fill requests. We will try to notify him of these concerns and possibly suggest if he can have someone else take this responsibility. They will take any donation if you wish to contribute to the church. There is no set fee for records although we ask that you be considerate in the service they will provide you. Secondly it is clear many people are going to the SGGEE web page for the Lublin database: http://www.sggee.org/research/parishes/lublin_records/lublinsearchinstruct.html Based on many questions that are arising it also appears many users are simply entering the box at the top left to begin searching the database without reading the rest of the page or associated links. The left box is there not as a place to start but for convenience for those already familiar with this site. EVERYONE who uses this site should FIRST read the text below on that page. After that it is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED that users study all links in the right box. These resources provide an in depth description of what can be found in the digital archive and its ongoing progress as new data is entered into the database. Most records from this digital archive are quite different than what you will find on typical films from your FHC. Users should be familiar with what they may expect to encounter. - If you do not know what a compilation table or alegata is then the links on right box are mandatory reading for you. - Do you know the significance of the Kamien parish and how that may impact on the likelihood of finding a record of interest for you in this archive? - What does it mean if you find hits that indicate a person's name is "Living"? These kinds of questions are all answered on this site but users need to do their homework and educate themselves before having fun at searching the data. Before driving a new car you want to be familiar with all the controls on the dashboard. The same reasoning holds for this database. Please note that this entire subdivision of the web site has German pages. It appears from our discussions with the German users that they are familiar with the various aspects of this data indicating they tend to read "the instruction manual" before using. Thank you for your consideration. Team Lublin From chpeebles at cox.net Fri Feb 12 17:11:10 2010 From: chpeebles at cox.net (Christel Peebles) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:11:10 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Family Splett Information Message-ID: <000101caac49$6de82180$49b86480$@net> I am looking for information on my father's family. He died in WWII fighting for the German Army just a few miles from where he was born - Pustomyty, Ukraine. His name was Christoph Splett. He left the Ukraine as a child when his mother packed up the family and moved to Ost Pressen - East Prussia. His father was August Splett born in 1867 in the Ukraine around Zhitomir. His mother was Justine Neumann - born 1865 in Paterkau, Poland. They lived in the Zhitomir, Heimtal. Elinow, Pustomyty, and Rozyszcze. August's father was Christoph (Kristov) Splett (Split) and his mother was Juliane Maler (Mahlen). This is all the information that I have been able to find using the SGGEE, the St Petersburg archives, and other sources. I am hoping that someone has had a little better luck and would be willing to share their information. So much has been lost and will never be known again. It would be nice to pass my family's history down to my children and grandchildren. Hope to hear from you soon. Christel Peebles From dabookk54 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 12 18:14:07 2010 From: dabookk54 at yahoo.com (Karl Krueger) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:14:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Family Splett Information In-Reply-To: <000101caac49$6de82180$49b86480$@net> Message-ID: <313524.72526.qm@web55308.mail.re4.yahoo.com> When you say east Prussia can you be more specific. Could they have lived in the Baltic States? He might be found in EWZ 53 records which covers this area. They were the first to be processed through this program. The fact that he fought for Germany means he was or was made a German citizen. For EWZ 53 you would need to go to the National Archives in College Park, Maryland. --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Christel Peebles wrote: From: Christel Peebles Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Family Splett Information To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 8:11 PM ? ? ? ? ? ? ???I am looking for information on my father's family.? He died in WWII fighting for the German Army just a few miles from where he was born - Pustomyty, Ukraine.? His name was Christoph Splett.? He left the Ukraine as a child when his mother packed up the family and moved to Ost Pressen - East Prussia.? His father was August Splett? born in 1867 in the Ukraine around Zhitomir.? His mother was Justine Neumann - born 1865 in Paterkau, Poland.? They lived in the Zhitomir, Heimtal. Elinow, Pustomyty, and Rozyszcze.? August's father was Christoph (Kristov) Splett (Split) and his mother was Juliane Maler (Mahlen).? This is all the information that I have been able to find using the SGGEE, the St Petersburg archives, and other sources.? I am hoping that someone has had a little better luck and would be willing to share their information.? So much has been lost and will never be known again.? It would be nice to pass my family's history down to my children and grandchildren.? Hope to hear from you soon. Christel Peebles ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? _______________________________________________ Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv From nancygertner at mac.com Sat Feb 13 06:13:41 2010 From: nancygertner at mac.com (Nancy Gertner) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:13:41 -0600 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Family Splett - surname found in Schokken marriage records in 1817 - 1830 In-Reply-To: <313524.72526.qm@web55308.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <313524.72526.qm@web55308.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <30E03A9A-50B4-4B3D-91BA-7475DB606CDD@mac.com> The surname SPLETT is found in marriage records of SCHOKKEN (Skoki, Poland) Lutheran church records, Posen Province. Michael, Johann, and a female in the 1817 - 1830 period. Miloslawic is a geographic reference given in one of the marriage records. SPLETT is also in the land records from the census of the later 1700s. Nancy > > --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Christel Peebles wrote: > > From: Christel Peebles > Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 8:11 PM > > I am looking for information on my father's family. > He died > in WWII fighting for the German Army just a few miles from where he > was born > - Pustomyty, Ukraine. His name was Christoph Splett. He left the > Ukraine > as a child when his mother packed up the family and moved to Ost > Pressen - > East Prussia. His father was August Splett born in 1867 in the > Ukraine > around Zhitomir. His mother was Justine Neumann - born 1865 in > Paterkau, > Poland. They lived in the Zhitomir, Heimtal. Elinow, Pustomyty, and > Rozyszcze. August's father was Christoph (Kristov) Splett (Split) > and his > mother was Juliane Maler (Mahlen). This is all the information > that I have > been able to find using the SGGEE, the St Petersburg archives, and > other > sources. I am hoping that someone has had a little better luck and > would be > willing to share their information. So much has been lost and will > never be > known again. It would be nice to pass my family's history down to my > children and grandchildren. Hope to hear from you soon. > > Christel Peebles From otto at schienke.com Sat Feb 13 06:57:50 2010 From: otto at schienke.com (Otto) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:57:50 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Family Splett - surname found in Schokken marriage records in 1817 - 1830 In-Reply-To: <30E03A9A-50B4-4B3D-91BA-7475DB606CDD@mac.com> References: <313524.72526.qm@web55308.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <30E03A9A-50B4-4B3D-91BA-7475DB606CDD@mac.com> Message-ID: If I remember correctly "Splett" is one of surnames I came across in the Labischin/?abiszyn parish, near the end of the 1700's and the beginning of the 1800's. Look SSW of present day Bydgoszcz -otto On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Nancy Gertner wrote: > The surname SPLETT is found in marriage records of SCHOKKEN (Skoki, > Poland) Lutheran church records, Posen Province. > > Michael, Johann, and a female in the 1817 - 1830 period. > > Miloslawic is a geographic reference given in one of the marriage > records. > > SPLETT is also in the land records from the census of the later 1700s. > > Nancy > >> >> --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Christel Peebles wrote: >> >> From: Christel Peebles >> Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 8:11 PM >> >> I am looking for information on my father's family. >> He died >> in WWII fighting for the German Army just a few miles from where he >> was born >> - Pustomyty, Ukraine. His name was Christoph Splett. He left the >> Ukraine >> as a child when his mother packed up the family and moved to Ost >> Pressen - >> East Prussia. His father was August Splett born in 1867 in the >> Ukraine >> around Zhitomir. His mother was Justine Neumann - born 1865 in >> Paterkau, >> Poland. They lived in the Zhitomir, Heimtal. Elinow, Pustomyty, and >> Rozyszcze. August's father was Christoph (Kristov) Splett (Split) >> and his >> mother was Juliane Maler (Mahlen). This is all the information >> that I have >> been able to find using the SGGEE, the St Petersburg archives, and >> other >> sources. I am hoping that someone has had a little better luck and >> would be >> willing to share their information. So much has been lost and will >> never be >> known again. It would be nice to pass my family's history down to my >> children and grandchildren. Hope to hear from you soon. >> >> Christel Peebles > > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv . . . Otto " The Zen moment..." wk. of January 01, 2010- _____________________________________ "Satisfaction . . . lurks in the answers." From christianlucht at googlemail.com Sat Feb 13 07:29:44 2010 From: christianlucht at googlemail.com (Christian Lucht) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:29:44 +0100 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Family Splett - surname found in Schokken marriage records in 1817 - 1830 In-Reply-To: References: <313524.72526.qm@web55308.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <30E03A9A-50B4-4B3D-91BA-7475DB606CDD@mac.com> Message-ID: I hav a Anna Simeona SPLETT, born abt. 1836 at Przedworszczyzna. Not sure if that belongs to Sompolno or Babiak parish, Konin area south of Bydgoszcz. Does anybody have SPLETT in that area? Christian 2010/2/13 Otto > If I remember correctly "Splett" is one of surnames I came across in > the Labischin/?abiszyn parish, near the end of the 1700's and the > beginning of the 1800's. Look SSW of present day Bydgoszcz > -otto > > > On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Nancy Gertner wrote: > > > The surname SPLETT is found in marriage records of SCHOKKEN (Skoki, > > Poland) Lutheran church records, Posen Province. > > > > Michael, Johann, and a female in the 1817 - 1830 period. > > > > Miloslawic is a geographic reference given in one of the marriage > > records. > > > > SPLETT is also in the land records from the census of the later 1700s. > > > > Nancy > > > >> > >> --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Christel Peebles wrote: > >> > >> From: Christel Peebles > >> Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 8:11 PM > >> > >> I am looking for information on my father's family. > >> He died > >> in WWII fighting for the German Army just a few miles from where he > >> was born > >> - Pustomyty, Ukraine. His name was Christoph Splett. He left the > >> Ukraine > >> as a child when his mother packed up the family and moved to Ost > >> Pressen - > >> East Prussia. His father was August Splett born in 1867 in the > >> Ukraine > >> around Zhitomir. His mother was Justine Neumann - born 1865 in > >> Paterkau, > >> Poland. They lived in the Zhitomir, Heimtal. Elinow, Pustomyty, and > >> Rozyszcze. August's father was Christoph (Kristov) Splett (Split) > >> and his > >> mother was Juliane Maler (Mahlen). This is all the information > >> that I have > >> been able to find using the SGGEE, the St Petersburg archives, and > >> other > >> sources. I am hoping that someone has had a little better luck and > >> would be > >> willing to share their information. So much has been lost and will > >> never be > >> known again. It would be nice to pass my family's history down to my > >> children and grandchildren. Hope to hear from you soon. > >> > >> Christel Peebles > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > > > > . . . Otto > " The Zen moment..." wk. of January 01, 2010- > _____________________________________ > "Satisfaction . . . lurks in the answers." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > From otto at schienke.com Sat Feb 13 08:37:56 2010 From: otto at schienke.com (Otto) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:37:56 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Family Splett - surname found in Schokken marriage records in 1817 - 1830 In-Reply-To: References: <313524.72526.qm@web55308.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <30E03A9A-50B4-4B3D-91BA-7475DB606CDD@mac.com> Message-ID: Good morning Christian! Nice to hear from you. Touch base. A Ludwig Lucht married Anna Splett It appears Labischin was a stopping point as families migrated upriver from the Baltic coast. In those areas Lucht married a Splett, a Schienke married a Remus and so on. From there migration up the Wisla/Weichsel/Vistula river continued. In Nasielsk north of Warsaw (early 1800's) a Lucht married a Schienke. I will find time this afternoon to review my Labischin microfilm jpg files to find more Spletts. It is becoming one big happy family. Genetic DNA SNP testing with 23andme, using their Relative Finder application, just fingered a Volhynian "Radke" as a 4th. cousin to me who is also a 4th. cousin to Bill Remus. On Feb 13, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Christian Lucht wrote: > I hav a Anna Simeona SPLETT, born abt. 1836 at Przedworszczyzna. Not > sure if > that belongs to Sompolno or Babiak parish, Konin area south of > Bydgoszcz. > Does anybody have SPLETT in that area? > Christian > > 2010/2/13 Otto > >> If I remember correctly "Splett" is one of surnames I came across in >> the Labischin/?abiszyn parish, near the end of the 1700's and the >> beginning of the 1800's. Look SSW of present day Bydgoszcz >> -otto >> >> >> On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Nancy Gertner wrote: >> >>> The surname SPLETT is found in marriage records of SCHOKKEN (Skoki, >>> Poland) Lutheran church records, Posen Province. >>> >>> Michael, Johann, and a female in the 1817 - 1830 period. >>> >>> Miloslawic is a geographic reference given in one of the marriage >>> records. >>> >>> SPLETT is also in the land records from the census of the later >>> 1700s. >>> >>> Nancy >>> >>>> >>>> --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Christel Peebles wrote: >>>> >>>> From: Christel Peebles >>>> Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 8:11 PM >>>> >>>> I am looking for information on my father's family. >>>> He died >>>> in WWII fighting for the German Army just a few miles from where he >>>> was born >>>> - Pustomyty, Ukraine. His name was Christoph Splett. He left the >>>> Ukraine >>>> as a child when his mother packed up the family and moved to Ost >>>> Pressen - >>>> East Prussia. His father was August Splett born in 1867 in the >>>> Ukraine >>>> around Zhitomir. His mother was Justine Neumann - born 1865 in >>>> Paterkau, >>>> Poland. They lived in the Zhitomir, Heimtal. Elinow, Pustomyty, >>>> and >>>> Rozyszcze. August's father was Christoph (Kristov) Splett (Split) >>>> and his >>>> mother was Juliane Maler (Mahlen). This is all the information >>>> that I have >>>> been able to find using the SGGEE, the St Petersburg archives, and >>>> other >>>> sources. I am hoping that someone has had a little better luck and >>>> would be >>>> willing to share their information. So much has been lost and will >>>> never be >>>> known again. It would be nice to pass my family's history down >>>> to my >>>> children and grandchildren. Hope to hear from you soon. >>>> >>>> Christel Peebles >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by >>> Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org >>> Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv >> >> >> >> . . . Otto >> " The Zen moment..." wk. of January 01, 2010- >> _____________________________________ >> "Satisfaction . . . lurks in the answers." >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by >> Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org >> Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv >> > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv . . . Otto " The Zen moment..." wk. of January 01, 2010- _____________________________________ "Satisfaction . . . lurks in the answers." From roseingram at shaw.ca Sat Feb 13 13:09:24 2010 From: roseingram at shaw.ca (Rose Ingram) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:09:24 -0800 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Family Splett Information References: <000101caac49$6de82180$49b86480$@net> Message-ID: <001e01caacf0$d20398a0$6601a8c0@duocore> Something doesn't feel right to me about August Splett's birth year of 1867. The St. Pete's records has an August born in Jan 1867. August Splett and Justine Neumann were married in November 1883. This would mean August was not yet 17 years old when he married. This is possible, but do question this. Rose Ingram ----- Original Message ----- From: Christel Peebles To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:11 PM Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Family Splett Information I am looking for information on my father's family. He died in WWII fighting for the German Army just a few miles from where he was born - Pustomyty, Ukraine. His name was Christoph Splett. He left the Ukraine as a child when his mother packed up the family and moved to Ost Pressen - East Prussia. His father was August Splett born in 1867 in the Ukraine around Zhitomir. His mother was Justine Neumann - born 1865 in Paterkau, Poland. They lived in the Zhitomir, Heimtal. Elinow, Pustomyty, and Rozyszcze. August's father was Christoph (Kristov) Splett (Split) and his mother was Juliane Maler (Mahlen). This is all the information that I have been able to find using the SGGEE, the St Petersburg archives, and other sources. I am hoping that someone has had a little better luck and would be willing to share their information. So much has been lost and will never be known again. It would be nice to pass my family's history down to my children and grandchildren. Hope to hear from you soon. Christel Peebles _______________________________________________ Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv From mail at reiner-kerp.de Sat Feb 13 13:24:59 2010 From: mail at reiner-kerp.de (Reiner Kerp) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:24:59 +0100 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Family Splett In-Reply-To: References: <313524.72526.qm@web55308.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <30E03A9A-50B4-4B3D-91BA-7475DB606CDD@mac.com> Message-ID: <4B7718AB.60605@reiner-kerp.de> Am 13.02.2010 16:29, schrieb Christian Lucht: > I hav a Anna Simeona SPLETT, born abt. 1836 at Przedworszczyzna. Not sure if > that belongs to Sompolno or Babiak parish, Konin area south of Bydgoszcz. > Does anybody have SPLETT in that area? > Christian dear Christian, have a look at my site (in German): http://reiner-kerp.de/Sompolno/pafg117.htm#1368 There she is! Several more SPLETT available at: http://reiner-kerp.de/Sompolno/index3.htm#SPLETT Best regards from Landsberg am Lech, Bavaria, Reiner (Kerp) mailto:mail at reiner-kerp.de im web: http://reiner-kerp.de From ahnenharfert at yahoo.de Sun Feb 14 09:00:27 2010 From: ahnenharfert at yahoo.de (Bodo Harfert) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:00:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] FN DREILICH in KALISZ and SHITOMR Message-ID: <533514.17139.qm@web29215.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Dear list subscribers, I just want to introduce to you, my name is Bodo Harfert, Germany and I am looking for data, facts and documents for research into my family history. (See list below) For simplicity, I set all my findings so far. For any kind of help I would be very grateful. Seeking information on the following FN: Dreilich Gottfried * 1797 ?? Schoepe Christine or Kristine * 1801 Children: a.Dreilich Carolina Dreilich * 1829 Kalisz b.Dreilich Eduard Julius* 1844 Kalisz ?? 1862 unknow . c.Dreilich Karl Eduard * 1834 Kalisz ?? 14.02.1858 in Kalisz Katarzyna (Catherine) Ratajczyk (unsecured) d.Dreilich Karl Gustav * 31.12.1832 Kalisz (Dobrzec Maly) I?? 30.01.1853 Kalisz Schoepke Loise + 1855 II??28.10.1856 Sonntag Johann Christine *1862 (Sontag) Children: Dreilich Johann Christine * 11.05.1862 ~ 18.05.1862 Klein Dobrzec Maly Kalisz o-o Kids 2 with Nr 1+2 1..Dreilich Anna Emilja * 22.11.1894 Kalisz (Klein Dobrzec Maly) (Anna Emilia Dreilich was naturalized about 1940 around in the German Empire. The files on this have been requested in Berlin.) I?? 29.10.1911 Kwandt Johann Karl * Zhitomir? + For 1916/17.One sister with Name Martha. Father = Kwandt Samuel Friedrich * 1862 ?? 22.01.1884 Mother = Efrosine Kopp or Koppe * 1865. Daughter from Henry. II?? (Poznan ?) Harfert Johann Friedrich * 08.11.1890 Kolonnie Jerusalem Schitomir.1 sister. Father:Harfert Gustav ?? Mother = Mertin Matilda (In I?? Johann Friedrich Harfert was married to Kwandt Martha (sister of Johann Karl)! 1 child) By 1916, in Poznan) 2.Dreilich Karl * 22.11.1894 Kalisz (Klein Dobrzec Maly) (Karl is after WW II in Poland and has stayed there, lived with the family.) Children: Dreilich Joseph. Would appreciate any hint! Greeting Bodo (Harfert) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf?gt ?ber einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail..yahoo.com From karlann at juno.com Sun Feb 14 12:21:42 2010 From: karlann at juno.com (karlann@juno.com) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:21:42 GMT Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Solett and Zhitomir in St. Petersburg Records Message-ID: <20100214.122142.1286.0@webmail24.vgs.untd.com> Rose suggests that caution should be used with these dates. It is possible, however, that August was baptized when he was older than an infant. I have seen this in the St. Petersburg records--children who were born when the parents were not living near a Lutheran parish had children baptized later. "Something doesn't feel right to me about August Splett's birth year of 1867. The St. Pete's records has an August born in Jan 1867. August Splett and Justine Neumann were married in November 1883. This would mean August was not yet 17 years old when he married. This is possible, but do question this." Karla Walters ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 From gary at warnerengineering.com Sun Feb 14 13:00:49 2010 From: gary at warnerengineering.com (Gary Warner) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:00:49 -0800 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] FN DREILICH in KALISZ and SHITOMR In-Reply-To: <533514.17139.qm@web29215.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <533514.17139.qm@web29215.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B786481.70007@warnerengineering.com> Bodo, Since the one I expected would answer your email has not responded yet, I will let you know that the oldest generation of the family you seek is in our Master Pedigree Database, courtesy of our most prolific extractor of data. We have some data that you do not have, and you have some data that we do not have. It is not possible to say how many of the rest of your names will match up with our data until you submit a Pedigree file. I would suggest that it would be to our mutual benefit if you joined SGGEE. Since some of your data spans into the 1900s, it may also be of benefit to look in the EWZ records, some of which are in our databases, and some of which are still being accumulated by some of our members, but which I have not yet seen. Gary Warner SGGEE Databases Manager On 2/14/2010 9:00 AM, Bodo Harfert wrote: > Dear list subscribers, > > I just want to introduce to you, my name is Bodo > Harfert, Germany and I am looking for data, facts and documents for research > into my family history. (See list below) > For simplicity, I set all my findings so far. For any kind of help > I would be very grateful. > Seeking information on the following FN: > > Dreilich Gottfried * 1797 > ?? > Schoepe Christine or Kristine * 1801 > > Children: > a.Dreilich Carolina Dreilich * 1829 Kalisz > > b.Dreilich Eduard Julius* 1844 Kalisz > ?? 1862 unknow > . > c.Dreilich Karl > Eduard * 1834 Kalisz > ?? 14.02.1858 in Kalisz > Katarzyna (Catherine) Ratajczyk (unsecured) > > d.Dreilich Karl Gustav * 31.12.1832 Kalisz (Dobrzec > Maly) > I?? 30.01.1853 Kalisz > Schoepke Loise + 1855 > > II??28.10.1856 > Sonntag Johann Christine *1862 (Sontag) > > Children: > > Dreilich Johann Christine * 11.05.1862 ~ > 18.05.1862 Klein Dobrzec Maly Kalisz > o-o > Kids 2 with Nr 1+2 > > 1..Dreilich Anna Emilja * 22.11.1894 Kalisz (Klein Dobrzec Maly) > (Anna Emilia Dreilich was naturalized about 1940 > around in the German Empire. The files on this have been requested in > Berlin.) > > I?? 29.10.1911 > Kwandt Johann Karl * Zhitomir? + For 1916/17.One sister with > Name Martha. Father = Kwandt Samuel Friedrich * 1862 ?? 22.01.1884 Mother = Efrosine Kopp or Koppe * 1865. Daughter > from Henry. > > II?? (Poznan ?) > > Harfert Johann Friedrich * 08.11.1890 Kolonnie > Jerusalem Schitomir.1 sister. Father:Harfert Gustav ?? Mother = Mertin Matilda > (In I?? Johann Friedrich Harfert was married to Kwandt > Martha (sister of Johann Karl)! 1 child) By 1916, in Poznan) > > 2.Dreilich Karl * 22.11.1894 Kalisz (Klein Dobrzec > Maly) (Karl is after WW II in Poland and has stayed there, lived with the > family.) > Children: > Dreilich Joseph. > > Would appreciate any hint! > > Greeting > Bodo (Harfert) > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf?gt ?ber einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. > http://mail..yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > > From gary at warnerengineering.com Sun Feb 14 13:08:21 2010 From: gary at warnerengineering.com (Gary Warner) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:08:21 -0800 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] FN DREILICH in KALISZ and SHITOMR In-Reply-To: <533514.17139.qm@web29215.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <533514.17139.qm@web29215.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B786645.8090008@warnerengineering.com> Bodo, Further to my last email, I forgot to mention that there are several Kwand/ Kwant/ Quant/ Quand families in our Volhynia data- births, marriages and deaths. See the first three links at http://sggee.org/research/PublicDatabases Gary Warner SGGEE Databases Manager On 2/14/2010 9:00 AM, Bodo Harfert wrote: > Dear list subscribers, > > I just want to introduce to you, my name is Bodo > Harfert, Germany and I am looking for data, facts and documents for research > into my family history. (See list below) > For simplicity, I set all my findings so far. For any kind of help > I would be very grateful. > Seeking information on the following FN: > > Dreilich Gottfried * 1797 > ?? > Schoepe Christine or Kristine * 1801 > > Children: > a.Dreilich Carolina Dreilich * 1829 Kalisz > > b.Dreilich Eduard Julius* 1844 Kalisz > ?? 1862 unknow > . > c.Dreilich Karl > Eduard * 1834 Kalisz > ?? 14.02.1858 in Kalisz > Katarzyna (Catherine) Ratajczyk (unsecured) > > d.Dreilich Karl Gustav * 31.12.1832 Kalisz (Dobrzec > Maly) > I?? 30.01.1853 Kalisz > Schoepke Loise + 1855 > > II??28.10.1856 > Sonntag Johann Christine *1862 (Sontag) > > Children: > > Dreilich Johann Christine * 11.05.1862 ~ > 18.05.1862 Klein Dobrzec Maly Kalisz > o-o > Kids 2 with Nr 1+2 > > 1..Dreilich Anna Emilja * 22.11.1894 Kalisz (Klein Dobrzec Maly) > (Anna Emilia Dreilich was naturalized about 1940 > around in the German Empire. The files on this have been requested in > Berlin.) > > I?? 29.10.1911 > Kwandt Johann Karl * Zhitomir? + For 1916/17.One sister with > Name Martha. Father = Kwandt Samuel Friedrich * 1862 ?? 22.01.1884 Mother = Efrosine Kopp or Koppe * 1865. Daughter > from Henry. > > II?? (Poznan ?) > > Harfert Johann Friedrich * 08.11.1890 Kolonnie > Jerusalem Schitomir.1 sister. Father:Harfert Gustav ?? Mother = Mertin Matilda > (In I?? Johann Friedrich Harfert was married to Kwandt > Martha (sister of Johann Karl)! 1 child) By 1916, in Poznan) > > 2.Dreilich Karl * 22.11.1894 Kalisz (Klein Dobrzec > Maly) (Karl is after WW II in Poland and has stayed there, lived with the > family.) > Children: > Dreilich Joseph. > > Would appreciate any hint! > > Greeting > Bodo (Harfert) > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf?gt ?ber einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. > http://mail..yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > > From cwowretusmc at msn.com Sun Feb 14 15:26:45 2010 From: cwowretusmc at msn.com (David Wyble Sr) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:26:45 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 81, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you for your response. I will drop them off at the office tomorro > From: ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org > Subject: Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 81, Issue 9 > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:00:02 -0800 > > Send Ger-Poland-Volhynia mailing list submissions to > ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://eclipse.sggee.org/mailman/listinfo/ger-poland-volhynia > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ger-poland-volhynia-owner at eclipse.sggee.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Ger-Poland-Volhynia digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Family Splett Information (Rose Ingram) > 2. Re: Family Splett (Reiner Kerp) > 3. FN DREILICH in KALISZ and SHITOMR (Bodo Harfert) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:09:24 -0800 > From: "Rose Ingram" > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Family Splett Information > To: , > Message-ID: <001e01caacf0$d20398a0$6601a8c0 at duocore> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Something doesn't feel right to me about August Splett's birth year of 1867. > The St. Pete's records has an August born in Jan 1867. > > August Splett and Justine Neumann were married in November 1883. This would mean August was not yet 17 years old when he married. This is possible, but do question this. > > Rose Ingram > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Christel Peebles > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:11 PM > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Family Splett Information > > > I am looking for information on my father's family. He died > in WWII fighting for the German Army just a few miles from where he was born > - Pustomyty, Ukraine. His name was Christoph Splett. He left the Ukraine > as a child when his mother packed up the family and moved to Ost Pressen - > East Prussia. His father was August Splett born in 1867 in the Ukraine > around Zhitomir. His mother was Justine Neumann - born 1865 in Paterkau, > Poland. They lived in the Zhitomir, Heimtal. Elinow, Pustomyty, and > Rozyszcze. August's father was Christoph (Kristov) Splett (Split) and his > mother was Juliane Maler (Mahlen). This is all the information that I have > been able to find using the SGGEE, the St Petersburg archives, and other > sources. I am hoping that someone has had a little better luck and would be > willing to share their information. So much has been lost and will never be > known again. It would be nice to pass my family's history down to my > children and grandchildren. Hope to hear from you soon. > > > > Christel Peebles > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:24:59 +0100 > From: Reiner Kerp > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Family Splett > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > Message-ID: <4B7718AB.60605 at reiner-kerp.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Am 13.02.2010 16:29, schrieb Christian Lucht: > > I hav a Anna Simeona SPLETT, born abt. 1836 at Przedworszczyzna. Not sure if > > that belongs to Sompolno or Babiak parish, Konin area south of Bydgoszcz. > > Does anybody have SPLETT in that area? > > Christian > > dear Christian, have a look at my site (in German): > > http://reiner-kerp.de/Sompolno/pafg117.htm#1368 > > There she is! > Several more SPLETT available at: > > http://reiner-kerp.de/Sompolno/index3.htm#SPLETT > > > Best regards from Landsberg am Lech, Bavaria, > > Reiner (Kerp) > > mailto:mail at reiner-kerp.de > > im web: http://reiner-kerp.de > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:00:27 -0800 (PST) > From: Bodo Harfert > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] FN DREILICH in KALISZ and SHITOMR > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > Message-ID: <533514.17139.qm at web29215.mail.ird.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Dear list subscribers, > > I just want to introduce to you, my name is Bodo > Harfert, Germany and I am looking for data, facts and documents for research > into my family history. (See list below) > For simplicity, I set all my findings so far. For any kind of help > I would be very grateful. > Seeking information on the following FN: > > Dreilich Gottfried * 1797 > ?? > Schoepe Christine or Kristine * 1801 > > Children: > a.Dreilich Carolina Dreilich * 1829 Kalisz > > b.Dreilich Eduard Julius* 1844 Kalisz > ?? 1862 unknow > . > c.Dreilich Karl > Eduard * 1834 Kalisz > ?? 14.02.1858 in Kalisz > Katarzyna (Catherine) Ratajczyk (unsecured) > > d.Dreilich Karl Gustav * 31.12.1832 Kalisz (Dobrzec > Maly) > I?? 30.01.1853 Kalisz > Schoepke Loise + 1855 > > II??28.10.1856 > Sonntag Johann Christine *1862 (Sontag) > > Children: > > Dreilich Johann Christine * 11.05.1862 ~ > 18.05.1862 Klein Dobrzec Maly Kalisz > o-o > Kids 2 with Nr 1+2 > > 1..Dreilich Anna Emilja * 22.11.1894 Kalisz (Klein Dobrzec Maly) > (Anna Emilia Dreilich was naturalized about 1940 > around in the German Empire. The files on this have been requested in > Berlin.) > > I?? 29.10.1911 > Kwandt Johann Karl * Zhitomir? + For 1916/17.One sister with > Name Martha. Father = Kwandt Samuel Friedrich * 1862 ?? 22.01.1884 Mother = Efrosine Kopp or Koppe * 1865. Daughter > from Henry. > > II?? (Poznan ?) > > Harfert Johann Friedrich * 08.11.1890 Kolonnie > Jerusalem Schitomir.1 sister. Father:Harfert Gustav ?? Mother = Mertin Matilda > (In I?? Johann Friedrich Harfert was married to Kwandt > Martha (sister of Johann Karl)! 1 child) By 1916, in Poznan) > > 2.Dreilich Karl * 22.11.1894 Kalisz (Klein Dobrzec > Maly) (Karl is after WW II in Poland and has stayed there, lived with the > family.) > Children: > Dreilich Joseph. > > Would appreciate any hint! > > Greeting > Bodo (Harfert) > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf?gt ?ber einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. > http://mail..yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia mailing list, hosted by the: > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv.html > > > End of Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 81, Issue 9 > ************************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ From sburke091 at comcast.net Mon Feb 15 10:05:18 2010 From: sburke091 at comcast.net (Sandy Burke) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:05:18 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] HARTWIG; MUELLER;ZIEBART;WEBER, GUSE Message-ID: Gottlieb Hartwig married Juliane Mueller (father Gottfried, mother Justine Ziebart) around 1884 in Vohlynia. They had several children-Gottlieb, Juliane, Gustav, Albert, Olga etc. from 1885-early 1900's). Their village was Emilin, parish Rozyszcze I already have lots of information to verify what I know. Many people have been overwhelmingly helpful. Several of their children immigrated to Berrien County, Michigan around 1909-1910. Albert and Olga ended up in Bramsche, Germany. Juliane Hartwig-DOB-March 18, 1889. ,married Oswald Busse and had a child, Emil in 1909. Her second husband, Edward J. Weber, was also from Volhynia. I have reached a brick wall. I believe these relatives came to Volhynia from Radom, Poland. I would like to find out: When did Gottlieb Hartwig and Juliane Mueller die? Who were their parents and where did they come from? Any information about Edward J. Weber-dob about 1892, parents August Weber and Otilia Guse. I am also researching my other grandmother who I know came from what is now the Czech Republic. Is there an organization, society, or mailing list that can help me with that line? Thanks you From mail at reiner-kerp.de Mon Feb 15 14:15:32 2010 From: mail at reiner-kerp.de (Reiner Kerp) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:15:32 +0100 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] searching for a certain name In-Reply-To: <16250452-CC81-42FD-944E-D75BB8B9B994@shaw.ca> References: <313524.72526.qm@web55308.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <30E03A9A-50B4-4B3D-91BA-7475DB606CDD@mac.com> <4B7718AB.60605@reiner-kerp.de> <16250452-CC81-42FD-944E-D75BB8B9B994@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <4B79C784.8040100@reiner-kerp.de> Dear fellow searchers, dear Lois Klarenbach, > I have been searching for [...] deciphering marriage-records from Sompolno, I found one name written in three different version in just one record. In one case I found 5 versions in a sequence of 3 records, when whitnesses acted as this for more than just one time. To cover this, I added "weitere Namen" to my file, pointing to that the spelling of names is floating. Sticking to ONE version leads to nowhere - or to a brickwall. Searching for PACHAL, you MUST also search for PACHOL and his son PACHOLKE/PACHALKE. Have a look at the alternate surname list: http://www.sggee.org/research/AlternateSurnamesDatabase.pdf and get surprised. Best regards from Landsberg am Lech, Bavaria, Reiner (Kerp) mailto:mail at reiner-kerp.de im web: http://reiner-kerp.de From udo-edelgard at freenet.de Fri Feb 19 05:59:19 2010 From: udo-edelgard at freenet.de (Edelgard Strobel) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:59:19 +0100 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia Message-ID: Dear list members, I have just found this interesting ship list: http://www.angelfire.com/ks/gerrus/ShipsBaltJun1912.html and could find some informations on my Zache/i family members, who came to Benton Harbour in 1912. Greetings from Germany, Edelgard From udo-edelgard at freenet.de Fri Feb 19 09:42:00 2010 From: udo-edelgard at freenet.de (Edelgard Strobel) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:42:00 +0100 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Fw: [AGoFF-L] [Extern] Fam. Janot in Grodziec Message-ID: <4627A2C84DD0474B8A8802B3BB0330AA@acer747b59264e> I forward this message to this list. For contact or help please email Dwayne directly: tiede at telus.net Edelgard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerhard Koenig" To: Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:59 AM Subject: [AGoFF-L] [Extern] Fam. Janot in Grodziec Hallo Mittelpolen-Forscher, von Dwayne & Kathy Tiede - Email: tiede at telus.net erhielt ich ein Dokument in russischer Sprache zugeschickt. Daraus der folg. Datenauszug: > for military call-up a copy of birth certificate for > > Gottlieb Janot * 6.12.1866 in Konary parish Grodziec, son of Dienegott > Janot, 27 years old and Karline, born Wegner, 27 years old. > > Written in Grodziec 15./27 April 1874. F?r Forscherkontakte bzw. weitere Hilfestellungen bitte direkt an Dwayne schreiben. gerhard -- Mitmachen + Nachlesen - http://wolhynien.de Informieren + Fragen - http://forum.wolhynien.net Museum in Linstow - http://umsiedlermuseum.wolhynien.de Histor. Verein - http://historischerverein.wolhynien.de -- Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser -- Bei an die AGoFF-L gerichteten Antworten bitte die nachstehenden Zeilen und alle zum Verst?ndnis nicht unbedingt erforderlichen Zeilen der Ausgangsnachricht l?schen! Zum An- und Abmelden, zum ?ndern des Passwortes und f?r den Zugang zum Archiv der AGoFF-L bitte die Listinfoseite anw?hlen: http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/agoff-l Eine Beschreibung zum Umgang mit der AGoFF-Mailingliste findet sich unter: http://www.genealogienetz.de/vereine/AGoFF/mailing.html Die Homepage der AGoFF findet sich unter: http://www.agoff.de Die Forscherdatenbank findet sich unter: http://db.genealogy.net/vereine/index.php?verein=AGoFF From roseingram at shaw.ca Fri Feb 19 12:18:37 2010 From: roseingram at shaw.ca (Rose Ingram) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 12:18:37 -0800 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Fw: [AGoFF-L] [Extern] Fam. Janot in Grodziec References: <4627A2C84DD0474B8A8802B3BB0330AA@acer747b59264e> Message-ID: <002201cab1a0$b84f9f30$6601a8c0@duocore> Dwayne, Are you looking for a copy of the marriage record? Rose Ingram ----- Original Message ----- From: Edelgard Strobel To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:42 AM Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Fw: [AGoFF-L] [Extern] Fam. Janot in Grodziec I forward this message to this list. For contact or help please email Dwayne directly: tiede at telus.net Edelgard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerhard Koenig" To: Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:59 AM Subject: [AGoFF-L] [Extern] Fam. Janot in Grodziec Hallo Mittelpolen-Forscher, von Dwayne & Kathy Tiede - Email: tiede at telus.net erhielt ich ein Dokument in russischer Sprache zugeschickt. Daraus der folg. Datenauszug: > for military call-up a copy of birth certificate for > > Gottlieb Janot * 6.12.1866 in Konary parish Grodziec, son of Dienegott > Janot, 27 years old and Karline, born Wegner, 27 years old. > > Written in Grodziec 15./27 April 1874. F?r Forscherkontakte bzw. weitere Hilfestellungen bitte direkt an Dwayne schreiben. gerhard ------snipped---------- From hgillespie at rogers.com Fri Feb 19 15:17:47 2010 From: hgillespie at rogers.com (Helen Gillespie) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:17:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <359437.74735.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> You're lucky you found your family members, because in scanning through the list of names and places I have noted a number of typographical errors, so I would suggest people check carefully to see if there is some possibility that the name or place has been transcribed in error. I realize the writing on the manifest is probably poor and spelling of names by officials haphazard at best, but even the same names were spelled differently on the same lines. ie: Edmmman and Ehmman on the same line - which may quite well be Erdmann. (not my family either!) Alt Lubomir and Lubomir - which may be Lubomirka - not far from Solomka and Rowno. It's a wonderful resource though. I wish I could find my relatives! They too went to Benton Harbor. Helen --- On Fri, 2/19/10, Edelgard Strobel wrote: > From: Edelgard Strobel > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org, POSEN-L at rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 1:59 PM > Dear list members, > > I have just found this interesting ship list: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ks/gerrus/ShipsBaltJun1912.html > > and could find some informations on my Zache/i family > members, who came to Benton Harbour in 1912. > > > Greetings from Germany, > > > Edelgard > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > From udo-edelgard at freenet.de Sat Feb 20 02:33:01 2010 From: udo-edelgard at freenet.de (Edelgard Strobel) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 11:33:01 +0100 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia References: <758355382.5804131266606296115.JavaMail.root@sz0118a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <275AA7BB241E40899639FF274BCDCBEF@acer747b59264e> There are more lists that you can find here: http://www.angelfire.com/ks/gerrus/ Regards, Edelgard ----- Original Message ----- From: sburke091 at comcast.net To: Edelgard Strobel Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia Are there lists like this one for other dates? If yes, how do you find them? From udo-edelgard at freenet.de Sat Feb 20 03:13:30 2010 From: udo-edelgard at freenet.de (Edelgard Strobel) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:13:30 +0100 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia References: <359437.74735.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003AB25089E547C598F5B212EBB15F86@acer747b59264e> Hello Helen, I also have some trouble with the place names given in the list: I wonder what "Polinfke, Russia" could mean. Maybe the letter "f" is a misread "s", but I also cannot find a place Polinske. I only know Polinske/Polinski as a surname. Edelgard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Gillespie" To: ; ; "Edelgard Strobel" Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia I have noted a number of typographical errors, From joepessarra at suddenlink.net Sat Feb 20 05:27:08 2010 From: joepessarra at suddenlink.net (joepessarra) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:27:08 -0600 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia In-Reply-To: <003AB25089E547C598F5B212EBB15F86@acer747b59264e> References: <359437.74735.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <003AB25089E547C598F5B212EBB15F86@acer747b59264e> Message-ID: <000301cab230$66fcfa70$34f6ef50$@net> ShtetlSeeker at http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp finds some Polyanskiy, Russia locations when searching for Polinske, Russia. Maybe some possibilities. Joe in Texas -----Original Message----- From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of Edelgard Strobel Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:14 AM To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org; POSEN-L at rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia Hello Helen, I also have some trouble with the place names given in the list: I wonder what "Polinfke, Russia" could mean. Maybe the letter "f" is a misread "s", but I also cannot find a place Polinske. I only know Polinske/Polinski as a surname. Edelgard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Gillespie" To: ; ; "Edelgard Strobel" Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia I have noted a number of typographical errors, _______________________________________________ Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv From sburke091 at comcast.net Sat Feb 20 14:01:24 2010 From: sburke091 at comcast.net (Sandy Burke) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:01:24 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia References: Message-ID: <86BFA16252414C21AEF1AAE084E3518B@cft> Is there such a ship list for other years? My relative came to Benton Harbor in 1910. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edelgard Strobel" To: ; Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:59 AM Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia > Dear list members, > > I have just found this interesting ship list: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ks/gerrus/ShipsBaltJun1912.html > > and could find some informations on my Zache/i family members, who came to > Benton Harbour in 1912. > > > Greetings from Germany, > > > Edelgard > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv From sburke091 at comcast.net Sat Feb 20 14:08:42 2010 From: sburke091 at comcast.net (Sandy Burke) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:08:42 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia References: <359437.74735.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I am making a genealogy trip this summer to the Ukraine (Vohlynia), the Czech Republic, Poland and Germany to research my two German Grandmothers from Russia. I know where I need to go but: I don't know where to stay, how to travel from country to country, or how to hire translators or tour guides. I have been awarded a grant-just found out today, so this is for sure. I plan to go to Benton Harbor to do some of my research. I am more than willing to do research for others in exchange for helping me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Gillespie" To: ; ; "Edelgard Strobel" Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia > You're lucky you found your family members, because in scanning through > the list of names and places I have noted a number of typographical > errors, so I would suggest people check carefully to see if there is some > possibility that the name or place has been transcribed in error. I > realize the writing on the manifest is probably poor and spelling of names > by officials haphazard at best, but even the same names were spelled > differently on the same lines. > ie: Edmmman and Ehmman on the same line - which may quite well be Erdmann. > (not my family either!) Alt Lubomir and Lubomir - which may be Lubomirka - > not far from Solomka and Rowno. > > It's a wonderful resource though. I wish I could find my relatives! They > too went to Benton Harbor. > > Helen > > --- On Fri, 2/19/10, Edelgard Strobel wrote: > >> From: Edelgard Strobel >> Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia >> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org, POSEN-L at rootsweb.com >> Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 1:59 PM >> Dear list members, >> >> I have just found this interesting ship list: >> >> http://www.angelfire.com/ks/gerrus/ShipsBaltJun1912.html >> >> and could find some informations on my Zache/i family >> members, who came to Benton Harbour in 1912. >> >> >> Greetings from Germany, >> >> >> Edelgard >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by >> Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org >> Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv From udo-edelgard at freenet.de Sun Feb 21 03:46:35 2010 From: udo-edelgard at freenet.de (Edelgard Strobel) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:46:35 +0100 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia References: <86BFA16252414C21AEF1AAE084E3518B@cft> Message-ID: Hello Sandy, on the main page http://www.angelfire.com/ks/gerrus you can find some more lists, but a list of 1910 is missing for the port of Baltimore. Edelgard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Burke" To: "Edelgard Strobel" ; ; Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia > Is there such a ship list for other years? My relative came to Benton > Harbor in 1910. From udo-edelgard at freenet.de Sun Feb 21 04:17:10 2010 From: udo-edelgard at freenet.de (Edelgard Strobel) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:17:10 +0100 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Polinfke = Palnufke = Poliyanovka, Ukraine References: <22345.99191.qm@web88007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <197C0414D96C4F938B43F491F4D6FCB4@acer747b59264e> Hello Helen, thank you, the direction fits, since the Zachei-children were born in Anielowka and Perelesyanka. I guess the correct name is Poliyanovka Poliyanovka, Koloniya Poliyanovka populated place 50?34' N 28?00' E E M U G Ukraine 110.9 miles W of Kyyiv 50?26' N 30?31' E Edelgard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Gillespie" To: "Edelgard Strobel" Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia >I suspect that it might be Palnufke or some variation. My grandmother >Alwine Bethke (geb. Baier)'s uncle Gustav Baier lived in Palnufke. But I >also think there are other spellings of this. Again - this is not far from >Kostopol and Rowno area. > > Helen > > --- On Sat, 2/20/10, Edelgard Strobel wrote: > >> From: Edelgard Strobel >> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia >> To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org, POSEN-L at rootsweb.com >> Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 11:13 AM >> Hello Helen, >> >> I also have some trouble with the place names given in the >> list: >> >> I wonder what "Polinfke, Russia" could mean. Maybe the >> letter "f" is a >> misread "s", but I also cannot find a place >> Polinske. I only know Polinske/Polinski as a surname. >> >> >> Edelgard >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Helen Gillespie" >> To: ; >> ; >> >> "Edelgard Strobel" >> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 12:17 AM >> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of >> Germans from Russia >> >> >> I have noted a number of typographical errors, >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by >> Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org >> Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv >> > > > From ra_stein at telus.net Mon Feb 22 13:43:42 2010 From: ra_stein at telus.net (ra_stein@telus.net) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:43:42 -0700 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Markowo, Siarczyce, and Biernatki BMD records Message-ID: <2942362DD30D4E689E3C53E6D2D93868@RichardPC> The German settlements Markowo, Siarczyce, and Biernatki were located about 15 km southwest of Wloclawek, Poland. I am looking for BMD church records for the period prior to 1808 and suspect they may be in one of the nearby Catholic parishes, namely Kruszyn, Brzesc Kujawski, Luraniec, or Wloclawek. Records of all these parishes are on LDS microfilms. Does anyone know which parish is most likely to have the German records from these villages? Dick Stein Calgary, Canada From GARY.RUPPERT at comcast.net Mon Feb 22 19:11:46 2010 From: GARY.RUPPERT at comcast.net (GARY.RUPPERT@comcast.net) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] ReLunraniecRussia? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1742171288.7840081266894706628.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Can anyone tell me whee Luraniec i located in usRussia? Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] passenger list of Germans from Russia To: , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;????????charset="iso-8859-1" Dear list members, I have just found this interesting ship list: http://www.angelfire.com/ks/gerrus/ShipsBaltJun1912.html and could find some informations on my Zache/i family members, who came to Benton Harbour in 1912. Greetings from Germany, Edelgard ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:42:00 +0100 From: "Edelgard Strobel" Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Fw: [AGoFF-L] [Extern] Fam. Janot in ????????Grodziec To: Message-ID: <4627A2C84DD0474B8A8802B3BB0330AA at acer747b59264e> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; ????????reply-type=original I forward this message to this list. For contact or help please email Dwayne directly: tiede at telus.net Edelgard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerhard Koenig" To: Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:59 AM Subject: [AGoFF-L] [Extern] Fam. Janot in Grodziec Hallo Mittelpolen-Forscher, von Dwayne & Kathy Tiede - Email: tiede at telus.net erhielt ich ein Dokument in russischer Sprache zugeschickt. Daraus der folg. Datenauszug: > for military call-up a copy of birth certificate for > > Gottlieb Janot * 6.12.1866 in Konary parish Grodziec, son of Dienegott > Janot, 27 years old and Karline, born Wegner, 27 years old. > > Written in Grodziec 15./27 April 1874. F?r Forscherkontakte bzw. weitere Hilfestellungen bitte direkt an Dwayne schreiben. gerhard -- Mitmachen + Nachlesen - http://wolhynien.de Informieren + Fragen - http://forum.wolhynien.net Museum in Linstow - http://umsiedlermuseum.wolhynien.de Histor. Verein - http://historischerverein.wolhynien.de -- Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser -- Bei an die AGoFF-L gerichteten Antworten bitte die nachstehenden Zeilen und alle zum Verst?ndnis nicht unbedingt erforderlichen Zeilen der Ausgangsnachricht l?schen! Zum An- und Abmelden, zum ?ndern des Passwortes und f?r den Zugang zum Archiv der AGoFF-L bitte die Listinfoseite anw?hlen: http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/agoff-l Eine Beschreibung zum Umgang mit der AGoFF-Mailingliste findet sich unter: http://www.genealogienetz.de/vereine/AGoFF/mailing.html Die Homepage der AGoFF findet sich unter: http://www.agoff.de Die Forscherdatenbank findet sich unter: http://db.genealogy.net/vereine/index.php?verein=AGoFF ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Ger-Poland-Volhynia mailing list, hosted by the: Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe ?http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv.html End of Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 81, Issue 12 *************************************************** From GARY.RUPPERT at comcast.net Mon Feb 22 19:14:37 2010 From: GARY.RUPPERT at comcast.net (GARY.RUPPERT@comcast.net) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:14:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Lubraniec Russia? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <712185277.7841231266894877043.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Can anyone tell me wher e Lubraniec i locatedDSSupposedly this is the village from where my maternal line of Schmid ts originated. Thanks Gary 22Febr 10 Baltimore From roseingram at shaw.ca Mon Feb 22 19:22:39 2010 From: roseingram at shaw.ca (Rose Ingram) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:22:39 -0800 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Lubraniec Russia? References: <712185277.7841231266894877043.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <00ad01cab437$7441c9f0$6601a8c0@duocore> Gary, There is a Lubraniec in Poland. It is approximately 12 miles SW of Wloclawek city. Rose Ingram ----- Original Message ----- From: GARY.RUPPERT at comcast.net To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Cc: Gary B. Ruppert Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Lubraniec Russia? Can anyone tell me wher e Lubraniec i locatedDSSupposedly this is the village from where my maternal line of Schmid ts originated. Thanks Gary 22Febr 10 Baltimore _______________________________________________ Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv From joepessarra at suddenlink.net Tue Feb 23 12:02:20 2010 From: joepessarra at suddenlink.net (joepessarra) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:02:20 -0600 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] russian germans Schneider In-Reply-To: <3728B216AB3643399AB16F298D374E31@DavidLaptop> References: <3728B216AB3643399AB16F298D374E31@DavidLaptop> Message-ID: <001301cab4c3$1bcc80d0$53658270$@net> -----Original Message----- From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of David Brackman Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:04 PM To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] russian germans Schneider Hello: can anyone assist with good sources of records for russian Germans, my Grandmother: Juliane Schneider was born in Alexanderdorf Russia in 1887 and emigrated to Canada in 1901. many thanks David Brackman _______________________________________________ Are you sure you don't mean Alexanderdorf, Germany? Germany telephone directory at http://www2.dastelefonbuch.de/ has 10 Schneider listings in Am Mellensee when a search is made for Schneider in Alexanderdorf. Am Mellensee is only 5 km (3 miles) from Kummersdorf-Alexanderdorf. There is also one Brachmann in Nuthetal, only 31 km (18 Miles) from Kummersdorf-Alexanderdorf. Could not locate an Alexanderdorf in Russia. Joe in Texas From FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca Wed Feb 24 06:01:09 2010 From: FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca (Jerry Frank) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:01:09 -0700 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] russian germans Schneider In-Reply-To: <001301cab4c3$1bcc80d0$53658270$@net> References: <3728B216AB3643399AB16F298D374E31@DavidLaptop> <001301cab4c3$1bcc80d0$53658270$@net> Message-ID: <4B853125.1090309@shaw.ca> I somehow missed this query the first time it was sent. There was an Alexanderdorf in Volhynia, also known as Granidub. It was located about 12 km south of Baraschow or about 20 km NE of the city of Nowograd Wolhynski. However, you inquiry is generic in that you don't stipulate a region in Russia. According to http://www.odessa3.org/collections/refs/link/villhelp.txt there were other Alexanderdorf in other parts of Russia. If you know that the family was from Volhynia, then you can be sure this is the correct location. Jerry Frank Calgary, AB joepessarra wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org > [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of David > Brackman > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:04 PM > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] russian germans Schneider > > Hello: can anyone assist with good sources of records for russian Germans, > my Grandmother: Juliane Schneider was born in Alexanderdorf Russia in 1887 > and emigrated to Canada in 1901. > > many thanks > > David Brackman > > _______________________________________________ > > Are you sure you don't mean Alexanderdorf, Germany? > > Germany telephone directory at http://www2.dastelefonbuch.de/ has 10 > Schneider listings in Am Mellensee when a search is made for Schneider in > Alexanderdorf. Am Mellensee is only 5 km (3 miles) from > Kummersdorf-Alexanderdorf. > > There is also one Brachmann in Nuthetal, only 31 km (18 Miles) from > Kummersdorf-Alexanderdorf. > > Could not locate an Alexanderdorf in Russia. > > Joe in Texas > > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > > From k.jonell at yahoo.com Wed Feb 24 08:41:22 2010 From: k.jonell at yahoo.com (Jonell Kivisto) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:41:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Reschke and Dahlke Message-ID: <242261.6740.qm@web45610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I was wondering if anyone on here can help me or lead me in the right direction? I am a begininer looking for information on Gottlieb? (believed born 1842) and Justine Dahlke. I know he was married twice. Was the 1st marriage before or after Justine? I don't know the dates of either marriage. But they had a set of twins Wilhelmina and Ludwig born in 1882. Wilhelmina is my g great grandmother. From what I have they are from either?Volyhnia, Poland, Russia, but this could be wrong. Thank you for any help anyone can give me. The other wife's name is Rosalie Noerenberg. Jonell From k.jonell at yahoo.com Wed Feb 24 08:43:45 2010 From: k.jonell at yahoo.com (Jonell Kivisto) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:43:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ludwig (Louis) Reschke Message-ID: <34203.6262.qm@web45607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Would anyone be able to tell me where I would be able to find where he died and of what? He was a twin born in April 1882, some have it was 1883. I have been told he died at age 20 of pneumonia. Any information will be grateful. Thank you, Jonell From gary at warnerengineering.com Wed Feb 24 09:21:02 2010 From: gary at warnerengineering.com (Gary Warner) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:21:02 -0800 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Reschke and Dahlke In-Reply-To: <242261.6740.qm@web45610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <242261.6740.qm@web45610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4B855FFE.2040401@warnerengineering.com> Jonell, There are at least the attached three children who were born to Gottlieb Reschke and Justine Dahlke or Dalke Gary Warner On 2/24/2010 8:41 AM, Jonell Kivisto wrote: > > > I was wondering if anyone on here can help me or lead me in the right direction? I am a begininer looking for information on Gottlieb (believed born 1842) and Justine Dahlke. I know he was married twice. Was the 1st marriage before or after Justine? I don't know the dates of either marriage. But they had a set of twins Wilhelmina and Ludwig born in 1882. Wilhelmina is my g great grandmother. From what I have they are from either Volyhnia, Poland, Russia, but this could be wrong. > Thank you for any help anyone can give me. The other wife's name is Rosalie Noerenberg. > Jonell > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > > From daveobee at shaw.ca Wed Feb 24 09:40:51 2010 From: daveobee at shaw.ca (Dave Obee) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:40:51 -0800 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Reschke and Dahlke In-Reply-To: <4B855FFE.2040401@warnerengineering.com> References: <242261.6740.qm@web45610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B855FFE.2040401@warnerengineering.com> Message-ID: Any hint as to where these people were from? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Warner Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:22 Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Reschke and Dahlke To: Jonell Kivisto Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > Jonell, > > There are at least the attached three children who were born to > Gottlieb > Reschke and Justine Dahlke or Dalke > > > > Gary Warner > > > > On 2/24/2010 8:41 AM, Jonell Kivisto wrote: > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone on here can help me or lead me in > the right direction? I am a begininer looking for information on > Gottlieb? (believed born 1842) and Justine Dahlke. I know > he was married twice. Was the 1st marriage before or after > Justine? I don't know the dates of either marriage. But they had > a set of twins Wilhelmina and Ludwig born in 1882. Wilhelmina is > my g great grandmother. From what I have they are from either > Volyhnia, Poland, Russia, but this could be wrong. > > Thank you for any help anyone can give me. The other wife's > name is Rosalie Noerenberg. > > Jonell > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > > > >??? > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > From dr.stewner at t-online.de Wed Feb 24 14:10:40 2010 From: dr.stewner at t-online.de (Dr. Frank Stewner) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:10:40 +0100 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Alexanderdorf in the Russian Empire Message-ID: <344AA581619944FAB8DE89873EC0DBB2@Acer> There are 4 Alexanderdorf mentionned in a mainly mennonite link: http://dielinde-ev.de/pdf/ortsverzeich/ortsv_a.pdf Frank Stewner From sdkron at hotmail.com Wed Feb 24 14:21:46 2010 From: sdkron at hotmail.com (Don Kronenberger) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:21:46 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ernst Kirschner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This message is for Diethard Kolewe. I have attempted to send him a personal e-mail but the message continually bounces. Diethard asked for information on Ernst Kirschner born 1843. I found Ernst Ludwik Kirschner born 1843 in Maszewo, Plock. His father was given as Jerzy Kirschner and mother was Karoline Goetz. Witnesses were Ernst Rosenthal and Ludwik Zimmermann. Also named in the entry is Ewa Haeft Rosenthal. Diethard, I hope this is helpful. Don Kronenberger From halwilson at btinternet.com Thu Feb 25 05:00:36 2010 From: halwilson at btinternet.com (HAL WILSON) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:00:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Polish translation Message-ID: <565193.46838.qm@web86504.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Hi Can anyone help? I have found an entry in a 1923 address book for Torun.It reads as follows:- ? Top page left????????????????????????????????????????? Top page right Ul.Piekary????????????????????????????????????????????? Plac Teatralny ? ? ? ?51/53 Magistrat m. Torunia ?????? Kaminski Al..? klucznik ??????? sadowy ????? Kauczynski Jozef, do- ????? zorca wiezy ????? Nowakowska Anastazja, ????? krawcowa I am particularly interested in where the place is the relevant parts about Jozef Kauczynski. ? Thanks Hal Wilson From gary at warnerengineering.com Wed Feb 24 10:26:41 2010 From: gary at warnerengineering.com (Gary Warner) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:26:41 -0800 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Reschke and Dahlke In-Reply-To: References: <242261.6740.qm@web45610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B855FFE.2040401@warnerengineering.com> Message-ID: <4B856F61.201@warnerengineering.com> Dave, Reschke Eva 15 Feb 1879 Leschachow? Rozyszcze Gottlieb Justine Dahlke 1895627-2/1879 641 140 Reschke Wilhelmine 12 Apr 1882 Alexandrowka Rozyszcze Gottlieb Justine Dalke 1897596-1/1882 709 430 Twin see Reg Nr 431 Reschke Ludwig 12 Apr 1882 Alexandrowka Rozyszcze Gottlieb Justine Dalke 1897596-1/1882 709 431 Twin see Reg Nr 430 Gary On 2/24/2010 9:40 AM, Dave Obee wrote: > Any hint as to where these people were from? > > Dave > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary Warner > Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:22 > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Reschke and Dahlke > To: Jonell Kivisto > Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > > > Jonell, > > > > There are at least the attached three children who were born to > > Gottlieb > > Reschke and Justine Dahlke or Dalke > > > > > > > > Gary Warner > > > > > > > > On 2/24/2010 8:41 AM, Jonell Kivisto wrote: > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone on here can help me or lead me in > > the right direction? I am a begininer looking for information on > > Gottlieb (believed born 1842) and Justine Dahlke. I know > > he was married twice. Was the 1st marriage before or after > > Justine? I don't know the dates of either marriage. But they had > > a set of twins Wilhelmina and Ludwig born in 1882. Wilhelmina is > > my g great grandmother. From what I have they are from either > > Volyhnia, Poland, Russia, but this could be wrong. > > > Thank you for any help anyone can give me. The other wife's > > name is Rosalie Noerenberg. > > > Jonell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > > > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > > > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Reschke children.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 33417 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://eclipse.sggee.org/pipermail/ger-poland-volhynia/attachments/20100224/9df93c4e/Reschkechildren-0001.jpe From mauricio.norenberg at gmail.com Thu Feb 25 21:50:44 2010 From: mauricio.norenberg at gmail.com (Mauricio Norenberg) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:50:44 +1300 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Reschke and Dahlke In-Reply-To: <4B856F61.201@warnerengineering.com> References: <242261.6740.qm@web45610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4B855FFE.2040401@warnerengineering.com> <4B856F61.201@warnerengineering.com> Message-ID: <67e3c661002252150p51e05722icdc7e69822deb1b1@mail.gmail.com> Hi Jonell, I have a marriage from 188x with Gotlieb Henschke with Emilie Noerenberg It's probably not the same but, much probably related. Emilie is my great-grandfather's sister. Keep in touch Cheers On 25 February 2010 07:26, Gary Warner wrote: > Dave, > > Reschke Eva 15 Feb 1879 Leschachow? Rozyszcze > Gottlieb Justine Dahlke 1895627-2/1879 641 140 > Reschke Wilhelmine 12 Apr 1882 Alexandrowka Rozyszcze > Gottlieb Justine Dalke 1897596-1/1882 709 430 Twin > see Reg Nr 431 > Reschke Ludwig 12 Apr 1882 Alexandrowka Rozyszcze > Gottlieb Justine Dalke 1897596-1/1882 709 431 Twin see > Reg Nr 430 > > > Gary > > > On 2/24/2010 9:40 AM, Dave Obee wrote: > >> Any hint as to where these people were from? >> >> Dave >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Gary Warner >> Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:22 >> Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Reschke and Dahlke >> To: Jonell Kivisto >> Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org >> >> > Jonell, >> > >> > There are at least the attached three children who were born to >> > Gottlieb >> > Reschke and Justine Dahlke or Dalke >> > >> > >> > >> > Gary Warner >> > >> > >> > >> > On 2/24/2010 8:41 AM, Jonell Kivisto wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > I was wondering if anyone on here can help me or lead me in >> > the right direction? I am a begininer looking for information on >> > Gottlieb (believed born 1842) and Justine Dahlke. I know >> > he was married twice. Was the 1st marriage before or after >> > Justine? I don't know the dates of either marriage. But they had >> > a set of twins Wilhelmina and Ludwig born in 1882. Wilhelmina is >> > my g great grandmother. From what I have they are from either >> > Volyhnia, Poland, Russia, but this could be wrong. >> > > Thank you for any help anyone can give me. The other wife's >> > name is Rosalie Noerenberg. >> > > Jonell >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by >> > > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org >> > > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv >> > > >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by >> > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org >> > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv >> > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv >