From rroggow at yahoo.com Wed Jul 1 06:28:21 2009 From: rroggow at yahoo.com (Ronald Roggow) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 06:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wandering Volhynians Newsletter Message-ID: <405048.78086.qm@web31007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Does anyone know how I might obtain old copies of this former newsletter? From thejoneses at shaw.ca Wed Jul 1 12:26:03 2009 From: thejoneses at shaw.ca (Carol Jones) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:26:03 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wandering Volhynians Newsletter References: <405048.78086.qm@web31007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I was just about to ask the same thing .... I'm missing 1995 editions. Carol Jones researching "Which Wurch/Werch/Wuerch/Wirch/Wuirch is which" From deloresstevens at sasktel.net Wed Jul 1 13:17:24 2009 From: deloresstevens at sasktel.net (Delores Stevens) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:17:24 -0600 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wandering Volhynians Newsletter References: <405048.78086.qm@web31007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00a701c9fa88$f2397d80$2518e143@Delores> I bought all of the copies from The Historical Society of Germans from Poland and Volhynia. They are located at, and sorry they do not have a web-site. 10014 - 81 Ave (Basement) Edmonton, AB T6E 1W8 They are in the basement of the Trinity Lutheran Church. Their library is opn on Thursdays from 10 am to 3 pm. The Librarian is Lorraine Delores Maduke From jeffkrebs at shaw.ca Wed Jul 1 15:20:45 2009 From: jeffkrebs at shaw.ca (Jeff Krebs) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:20:45 -0600 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wandering Volhynians Newsletter In-Reply-To: <00a701c9fa88$f2397d80$2518e143@Delores> References: <405048.78086.qm@web31007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00a701c9fa88$f2397d80$2518e143@Delores> Message-ID: <001501c9fa9a$2d9e0c90$88da25b0$@ca> Try contacting thewuschkes at yahoo.com (Elvira). I purchased the series a couple of years ago and she had surplus at that time. Jeff Krebs Canada -----Original Message----- From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of Delores Stevens Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:17 PM To: Ronald Roggow; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wandering Volhynians Newsletter I bought all of the copies from The Historical Society of Germans from Poland and Volhynia. They are located at, and sorry they do not have a web-site. 10014 - 81 Ave (Basement) Edmonton, AB T6E 1W8 They are in the basement of the Trinity Lutheran Church. Their library is opn on Thursdays from 10 am to 3 pm. The Librarian is Lorraine Delores Maduke _______________________________________________ Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv From deloresstevens at sasktel.net Wed Jul 1 16:17:19 2009 From: deloresstevens at sasktel.net (Delores Stevens) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:17:19 -0600 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wandering Volhynians Newsletter References: <405048.78086.qm@web31007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00a701c9fa88$f2397d80$2518e143@Delores> <001501c9fa9a$2d9e0c90$88da25b0$@ca> Message-ID: <003a01c9faa2$151148b0$2518e143@Delores> It is my understanding that Ewald Wuschke donated them to the Historical Society that I mentioned. He also donated a large amount of his research material. Delores Maduke From jeffkrebs at shaw.ca Wed Jul 1 18:03:21 2009 From: jeffkrebs at shaw.ca (Jeff Krebs) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:03:21 -0600 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wandering Volhynians Newsletter In-Reply-To: <003a01c9faa2$151148b0$2518e143@Delores> References: <405048.78086.qm@web31007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00a701c9fa88$f2397d80$2518e143@Delores> <001501c9fa9a$2d9e0c90$88da25b0$@ca> <003a01c9faa2$151148b0$2518e143@Delores> Message-ID: <001601c9fab0$e4aef870$ae0ce950$@ca> Fyi...date of my purchase was February 2006. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Delores Stevens [mailto:deloresstevens at sasktel.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:17 PM To: Jeff Krebs; 'Ronald Roggow'; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wandering Volhynians Newsletter It is my understanding that Ewald Wuschke donated them to the Historical Society that I mentioned. He also donated a large amount of his research material. Delores Maduke From cgschott at comcast.net Thu Jul 2 19:03:22 2009 From: cgschott at comcast.net (Carolyn Schott) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:03:22 -0700 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wandering Volhynians Newsletter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <60AFB4B422524054939479E79CBCB383@Carolyn> If anyone is looking for these issues: Dec 1997, Sep 1997, Mar 1998 GRHS is having a silent auction of some items from Dale Wahl's collection at our convention in September. See http://www.grhs.org/news/09conv/silent_auction.htm The GRHS group is mostly focused on the Black Sea region, not Volhynia, so I would imagine these will go pretty cheaply. You need to be at the convention to bid. But if you won't be there, I will be and would be happy to facilitate a bid from you if you wanted me to. Just contact me one-on-one. It's only 3 issues, so I know this isn't much help, but thought I'd mention it. Carolyn Schott cgschott at comcast.net >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:26:03 -0500 >From: "Carol Jones" >Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wandering Volhynians Newsletter >To: "Ronald Roggow" , > >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >I was just about to ask the same thing .... I'm missing 1995 editions. > >Carol Jones researching "Which Wurch/Werch/Wuerch/Wirch/Wuirch >is which" > > From thejoneses at shaw.ca Thu Jul 2 19:44:36 2009 From: thejoneses at shaw.ca (Carol Jones) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:44:36 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wandering Volhynians Newsletter References: <60AFB4B422524054939479E79CBCB383@Carolyn> Message-ID: <0B474533F4124F03B5A1326B15E8F92F@GENE> Has anyone ever done a spreadsheet of the "In Memoriams"? Carol Jones From ljavorsk at xplornet.com Fri Jul 3 10:11:41 2009 From: ljavorsk at xplornet.com (Larry Javorsky) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:11:41 -0700 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wandering Volhynians Newsletter Message-ID: <898A484757574A4D98FEBF6BB2DFA0CE@company898bb10> Copies of the former newsletter, "Wandering Volhynians" can be purchased from the HSGPV (Historical Society of Germans from Poland & Volhynia) library in Edmonton, Alberta. E-mail to lyackulic at shaw.ca Larry W. Javorsky Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wandering Volhynians Newsletter Does anyone know how I might obtain old copies of this former newsletter? _______________________________________________ Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv From thejoneses at shaw.ca Sat Jul 4 13:36:10 2009 From: thejoneses at shaw.ca (Carol Jones) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 15:36:10 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Wandering Volhynians Newsletter References: <405048.78086.qm@web31007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Ronald, Ronald Roggow wrote: "Does anyone know how I might obtain old copies of this former newsletter?" This is the response I got from the Librarian at the Historical Society of Germans from Poland and Volhynia: "Unfortunately we sell these newsletters as a complete set only. I am sorry, but we cannot break apart the sealed packages. We do have a sample set. If you are here in Edmonton and are a member, you could borrow the ones you wanted and take them to STAPLES and photocopy them on your own." Carol Jones From gpvjem at sasktel.net Wed Jul 8 09:20:41 2009 From: gpvjem at sasktel.net (gpvjem) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:20:41 -0600 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 73, Issue 13 References: <91bc0b470906161622y65847aa2q16e5ba3395ff6ef9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Verna: I have just reviewed some of my older emails and there is a possibility I have a connection with the Janke family you are interested in. I have a an uncle (by marriage) by the name of Ludwig Janke, born 7 Jun 1883 in Nee Seefeld, Lutzk. I have his father as Wilhelm and his mother as Wilhelmine Kuehn. I haven't delved into the Janke line of my family except for the descendants of Ludwig and my aunt Bertha (nee Klemke) so my "old country" data is weak, however you might be able to make a connection. If so I can probably be of assistance with Ludwig's descendants. John Marsch Saskatchewan, Canada. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I have Janke's(Jahnke) from Lutzk, Volhynia in my line My Grandmother was Emma Janke/Kuhl born 1887 --came to Canada 1907 One of her brother's was Julius Janke--- came to Canada 1913 She had a brother August Janke who lived in Alexandria,Volhynia His mother Julianna Janke,lived with him. Her maiden name was Krueger(Kreiger) I've been trying to find out more on this Janke family for some time. Good luck in your search, Sincerely, Verna Kuhl/Hutchinson Canada On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:00 PM, wrote: > Send Ger-Poland-Volhynia mailing list submissions to > ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://eclipse.sggee.org/mailman/listinfo/ger-poland-volhynia > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ger-poland-volhynia-owner at eclipse.sggee.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Ger-Poland-Volhynia digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. ships lists (marlo) > 2. Re: ships lists (Spaghettitree at aol.com) > 3. Seeking descendants of Jahnke, Manke, Hinkelmann (RSchrul at aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:54:54 -0400 > From: "marlo" > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] ships lists > To: "Ger-Pol-Vol group" > Message-ID: <4A36C43D4CE646D38E3E1FA7331D6B2C at margaret46066b> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Where can I find a list of ships that landed at Castle Garden in the year 1872? It seems to me when I started my research there was a site that listed ships by years, does any one remember? > I would appreciate any information. > Margaret > -------------- next part -------------- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.70/2177 - Release Date: 06/15/09 05:54:00 > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:57:44 EDT > From: Spaghettitree at aol.com > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] ships lists > To: marlo50 at bex.net, ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Go to _http://www.castlegarden.org/_ (http://www.castlegarden.org/) > > Maureen > > > In a message dated 6/15/2009 2:27:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > marlo50 at bex.net writes: > > Where can I find a list of ships that landed at Castle Garden in the year > 1872? It seems to me when I started my research there was a site that > listed ships by years, does any one remember? > I would appreciate any information. > Margaret > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.70/2177 - Release Date: 06/15/09 > 05:54:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > > **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your > fingertips. > (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000004) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:15:25 EDT > From: RSchrul at aol.com > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Seeking descendants of Jahnke, Manke, > Hinkelmann > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > Dear list members, > My name is Reinhard Schrul and I live in Germany. I am researching for > several years after our German ancestors, which since about 1720 in Poland in > the circle Rypin / Rippin lived. A part of the family is sadly missing. > They immigrated 1904 or 1906 in the USA. There are the children of my > great-grandfather Karl Julius Jahnke (Generation 1). > Hermann + Heinrich Jahnke, Ernestine Manke and Adele Hinkelmann > (Generation 2) lived in Hartford, CT. Their descendants have left Hartford, and are > scattered in all winds. > Can anyone help with my search? > Thank you and warm greetings from Germany > Reinhard Schrul > G > Name > Married > Birth Date > Birth Place > Death Date > Death Place > 1 > Karl Julius Jahnke > Louise Schrul > 2 Aug 1857 > Wojtostwo > 1920 > 2 > Hermann Paul Jahnke > Helene ??? > 17 Oct 1883 > Wojtostwo > 23 May 1969 > Hartford, CT > 3 > William Jahnke > 1 Jun 1909 > Hartford, CT > 1 Apr 1999 > Hartford, CT > 3 > Hedwig H Jahnke > 1916 > Hartford, CT > 3 > Bernhardt ? Jahnke > 1919 > Hartford, CT > 3 > Dania M ? Jahnke > 1921 > Hartford, CT > 2 > Heinrich Jahnke > Auguste ??? > 24 May 1885 > Wojtostwo > 23 Feb 1960 > Hartford, CT > 3 > Alice Jahnke > 1912 > Hartford, CT > 3 > Lydia Jahnke > 1914 > 3 > Walter Jahnke > 1915 > 3 > Marie Jahnke > 29 Jul 1917 > 26 May 1997 > Hartford, CT > 2 > Ernestine Jahnke > Adolph August Manke > 21 Nov 1888 > Wojtostwo > 24 Jan 1981 > Hartford, CT > 3 > Louise Mahnke > 1909 > Hartford, CT > 3 > Emma Manke > 1911 > Hartford, CT > 3 > Marta Manke > 1914 > Hartford, CT > 3 > George A Manke > 1917 > Hartford, CT > 2 > Adele Jahnke > Carl Ernst Hinklemann > 30 Oct 1890 > Wojtostwo > 26 Dec 1986 > Hartford, CT > 3 > Margaret Hinklemann > Georg Miller > 1910 > Hartford, CT > 4 > Carol Hinklemann > > 4 > Lawrence Hinklemann > > 3 > Amanda Hinklemann > Cliff Hills > 15 Oct 1912 > Hartford, CT > 13 May 2004 > Hartford, CT > 4 > Christian Hills > ??? ??? > > 4 > Cora Hills > > 3 > Dorothy Hinklemann > Norman Rausch > 1917 > Hartford, CT > 3 > Ruth Hinklemann > Carl Ackermann > 1920 > Hartford, CT > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia mailing list, hosted by the: > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv.html > > > End of Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 73, Issue 13 > *************************************************** > _______________________________________________ Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv From ra_stein at telus.net Wed Jul 8 10:33:58 2009 From: ra_stein at telus.net (Richard Stein) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:33:58 -0600 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Janke, Rozyszcze parish In-Reply-To: References: <91bc0b470906161622y65847aa2q16e5ba3395ff6ef9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <05D8008416A249AE83C56FCB693A1506@RichardPC> John and Verna, There are many Janke/Jahnke/Jannke people in Volhynia, including Wilhelm Janke married to Wilhelmine Kuehn on 4 Nov 1862 in Rozyszcze They had at least 12 children from 1863 to 1889, including (as John noted) Ludwig born 7 Jun 1883. Dick Stein ----- Original Message ----- From: "gpvjem" To: "Verna Hutchinson" ; Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 73,Issue 13 > Verna: > I have just reviewed some of my older emails and there is a possibility > I have a connection with the Janke family you are interested in. > I have a an uncle (by marriage) by the name of Ludwig Janke, born 7 Jun > 1883 in Nee Seefeld, Lutzk. I have his father as Wilhelm and his mother > as Wilhelmine Kuehn. > I haven't delved into the Janke line of my family except for the > descendants of Ludwig and my aunt Bertha (nee Klemke) so my "old country" > data is weak, however you might be able to make a connection. If so I can > probably be of assistance with Ludwig's descendants. > > John Marsch > Saskatchewan, Canada. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > I have Janke's(Jahnke) from Lutzk, Volhynia in my line > My Grandmother was Emma Janke/Kuhl born 1887 --came to Canada 1907 > One of her brother's was Julius Janke--- came to Canada 1913 > She had a brother August Janke who lived in Alexandria,Volhynia > His mother Julianna Janke,lived with him. Her maiden name was > Krueger(Kreiger) > I've been trying to find out more on this Janke family for some time. > > Good luck in your search, Sincerely, > Verna Kuhl/Hutchinson > Canada > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:00 PM, > wrote: > > Send Ger-Poland-Volhynia mailing list submissions to > > ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://eclipse.sggee.org/mailman/listinfo/ger-poland-volhynia > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > ger-poland-volhynia-request at eclipse.sggee.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > ger-poland-volhynia-owner at eclipse.sggee.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Ger-Poland-Volhynia digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. ships lists (marlo) > > 2. Re: ships lists (Spaghettitree at aol.com) > > 3. Seeking descendants of Jahnke, Manke, Hinkelmann (RSchrul at aol.com) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:54:54 -0400 > > From: "marlo" > > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] ships lists > > To: "Ger-Pol-Vol group" > > Message-ID: <4A36C43D4CE646D38E3E1FA7331D6B2C at margaret46066b> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Where can I find a list of ships that landed at Castle Garden in the > year 1872? It seems to me when I started my research there was a site that > listed ships by years, does any one remember? > > I would appreciate any information. > > Margaret > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.70/2177 - Release Date: > 06/15/09 05:54:00 > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:57:44 EDT > > From: Spaghettitree at aol.com > > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] ships lists > > To: marlo50 at bex.net, ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > Go to _http://www.castlegarden.org/_ (http://www.castlegarden.org/) > > > > Maureen > > > > > > In a message dated 6/15/2009 2:27:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > marlo50 at bex.net writes: > > > > Where can I find a list of ships that landed at Castle Garden in the > year > > 1872? It seems to me when I started my research there was a site that > > listed ships by years, does any one remember? > > I would appreciate any information. > > Margaret > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.70/2177 - Release Date: > 06/15/09 > > 05:54:00 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > > > > **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at > your > > fingertips. > > > (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000004) > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:15:25 EDT > > From: RSchrul at aol.com > > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Seeking descendants of Jahnke, Manke, > > Hinkelmann > > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > > > Dear list members, > > My name is Reinhard Schrul and I live in Germany. I am researching for > > several years after our German ancestors, which since about 1720 in > Poland in > > the circle Rypin / Rippin lived. A part of the family is sadly missing. > > They immigrated 1904 or 1906 in the USA. There are the children of my > > great-grandfather Karl Julius Jahnke (Generation 1). > > Hermann + Heinrich Jahnke, Ernestine Manke and Adele Hinkelmann > > (Generation 2) lived in Hartford, CT. Their descendants have left > Hartford, and are > > scattered in all winds. > > Can anyone help with my search? > > Thank you and warm greetings from Germany > > Reinhard Schrul > > G > > Name > > Married > > Birth Date > > Birth Place > > Death Date > > Death Place > > 1 > > Karl Julius Jahnke > > Louise Schrul > > 2 Aug 1857 > > Wojtostwo > > 1920 > > 2 > > Hermann Paul Jahnke > > Helene ??? > > 17 Oct 1883 > > Wojtostwo > > 23 May 1969 > > Hartford, CT > > 3 > > William Jahnke > > 1 Jun 1909 > > Hartford, CT > > 1 Apr 1999 > > Hartford, CT > > 3 > > Hedwig H Jahnke > > 1916 > > Hartford, CT > > 3 > > Bernhardt ? Jahnke > > 1919 > > Hartford, CT > > 3 > > Dania M ? Jahnke > > 1921 > > Hartford, CT > > 2 > > Heinrich Jahnke > > Auguste ??? > > 24 May 1885 > > Wojtostwo > > 23 Feb 1960 > > Hartford, CT > > 3 > > Alice Jahnke > > 1912 > > Hartford, CT > > 3 > > Lydia Jahnke > > 1914 > > 3 > > Walter Jahnke > > 1915 > > 3 > > Marie Jahnke > > 29 Jul 1917 > > 26 May 1997 > > Hartford, CT > > 2 > > Ernestine Jahnke > > Adolph August Manke > > 21 Nov 1888 > > Wojtostwo > > 24 Jan 1981 > > Hartford, CT > > 3 > > Louise Mahnke > > 1909 > > Hartford, CT > > 3 > > Emma Manke > > 1911 > > Hartford, CT > > 3 > > Marta Manke > > 1914 > > Hartford, CT > > 3 > > George A Manke > > 1917 > > Hartford, CT > > 2 > > Adele Jahnke > > Carl Ernst Hinklemann > > 30 Oct 1890 > > Wojtostwo > > 26 Dec 1986 > > Hartford, CT > > 3 > > Margaret Hinklemann > > Georg Miller > > 1910 > > Hartford, CT > > 4 > > Carol Hinklemann > > > > 4 > > Lawrence Hinklemann > > > > 3 > > Amanda Hinklemann > > Cliff Hills > > 15 Oct 1912 > > Hartford, CT > > 13 May 2004 > > Hartford, CT > > 4 > > Christian Hills > > ??? ??? > > > > 4 > > Cora Hills > > > > 3 > > Dorothy Hinklemann > > Norman Rausch > > 1917 > > Hartford, CT > > 3 > > Ruth Hinklemann > > Carl Ackermann > > 1920 > > Hartford, CT > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ger-Poland-Volhynia mailing list, hosted by the: > > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv.html > > > > > > End of Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 73, Issue 13 > > *************************************************** > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > From joachim.lebedzow at t-online.de Thu Jul 9 12:07:14 2009 From: joachim.lebedzow at t-online.de (joachim.lebedzow@t-online.de) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:07:14 +0200 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Neugrunden in former Russian Poland Message-ID: <1MOyxe-0iFlzs0@fwd07.aul.t-online.de> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://eclipse.sggee.org/pipermail/ger-poland-volhynia/attachments/20090709/0e33badb/attachment.html From albertmuth at aol.com Thu Jul 9 12:23:28 2009 From: albertmuth at aol.com (albertmuth@aol.com) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:23:28 -0400 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Neugrunden in former Russian Poland In-Reply-To: <1MOyxe-0iFlzs0@fwd07.aul.t-online.de> References: <1MOyxe-0iFlzs0@fwd07.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: <8CBCEE1DF17D138-5DC-1DF3@webmail-dh23.sysops.aol.com> Gra,d Nowy and Gra,d Stary The Lutheran parish most likely would be Grodziec (Konin) -----Original Message----- From: joachim.lebedzow at t-online.de To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Sent: Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:07 pm Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Neugrunden in former Russian Poland I am interesting in knowing what the Polish name of former "Neugrunden" near Kalisz/Poland is. My grandma (birthname Gerhard or Gerhart) was born there in 1889. She was married with an man named "Jahns" and emigrated in 1914 to Southern Germany caused by the beginning of worldwar 1. In the near there must had been?a town named "Altgrunden". Who can help? Kind Regards Joachim Aktuelle News aus allen Bereichen, hilfreiche Tipps, Software, Videos, Spiele und Shopping-Angebote bei www.t-online.de. _______________________________________________ Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv From belehmann at shaw.ca Sat Jul 11 09:18:12 2009 From: belehmann at shaw.ca (Barb & Ed Lehmann) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:18:12 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Looking for Wuensch/Schulz Family info. Message-ID: <1B178C0449A4448AB149A33729C198E8@ownerd98fcbe99> I am a sggee member researching my Wolhynian Families. My maternal Grandfather Karl Heinrich Wuensch was born in Wladyslawow/Turek Poland in1857, the Wuensch Family moved to Wolhynia in approx. 1866 they settled in the Janowka/Gruental area.About 1899-1901 he married my Grandmother Amalie Schulz [his second wife], she was born about 1881-1883, they may have been married in Kolowert were they resided when my Mother was born in 1905. My Grandmother amalie died accidetally when my Mother was 5 years old. I am unable to find any information on where or when she was born and who her Parents were. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Ed. Lehmann From benovich at imt.net Tue Jul 14 18:12:54 2009 From: benovich at imt.net (Richard Benert) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:12:54 -0600 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Kazapen Message-ID: <003c01ca04e9$627c3a00$0500a8c0@richard01> Can anyone give me a good idea of what is or was meant by the term "Kazapen"? I've seen references that make it seem to apply to an ethnic group, a religious sect, or a nasty group of anti-Semites. Thanks for any help. Dick Benert From albertmuth at aol.com Tue Jul 14 18:30:02 2009 From: albertmuth at aol.com (albertmuth@aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:30:02 -0400 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Kazapen In-Reply-To: <003c01ca04e9$627c3a00$0500a8c0@richard01> References: <003c01ca04e9$627c3a00$0500a8c0@richard01> Message-ID: <8CBD302E88C851B-D24-5CA@MBLK-M08.sysops.aol.com> Hi Dick, Best I can do on short notice is an on-line reference at? http://www.z-g-v.de/doku/archiv/rumaenien/kapitel-4-1-1-0-1.htm Do a "find on page search", and you will see that it occurs in this context: Es war ihnen auch gelungen, mit den anderen in Bessarabien siedelnden? Bev?lkerungselementen (Moldowaner, Kazapen, Bulgaren, Ukrainer, Gagausen)? zu einer freundschaftlichen Lebensgemeinschaft mit Arbeitsteilung (Bulgaren) zu gelangen Also http://www.hannowka.de/Video_Panorama.htm Der Panoramarundblick zeigt das Dorf Hannowka im August 2004.? Ein neues Schulgeb?ude ist seit 10 Jahren im Bau. Bis 1940 wohnten? im unteren Dorfteil die Deutschen , im oberen die "Kazapen", Angeh?rige? einer russischen Glaubens- richtung. I found these, just googling. ?But I did restrict the language to German. ?There are a? few other citations worth considering (in Google Books, books that have been scanned). Sorry for not translating, I thought we'd get you straightened out first. The reference usually seems to be in the context of the Bessarabian Germans Al Muth -----Original Message----- From: Richard Benert To: SGGEE Mail List Sent: Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:12 pm Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Kazapen Can anyone give me a good idea of what is or was meant by the term "Kazapen"? I've seen references that make it seem to apply to an ethnic group, a religious sect, or a nasty group of20anti-Semites. Thanks for any help. Dick Benert _______________________________________________ Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv From edieadam at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 11:27:29 2009 From: edieadam at gmail.com (Edie Adam) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:27:29 -0400 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Question about conference registration Message-ID: Hello: Is there someone at SGGEE who can answer a specific question about my conference registration? If so, please reply privately. Thanks. Edie Adam Virginia, USA From roseingram at shaw.ca Thu Jul 16 11:59:10 2009 From: roseingram at shaw.ca (Rose Ingram) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:59:10 -0700 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Question about conference registration References: Message-ID: <004001ca0647$80e35ff0$6601a8c0@duocore> Edie, I'll have someone check the registrations and get back to you. ROse Ingram ----- Original Message ----- From: Edie Adam To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:27 AM Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Question about conference registration Hello: Is there someone at SGGEE who can answer a specific question about my conference registration? If so, please reply privately. Thanks. Edie Adam Virginia, USA _______________________________________________ Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv From benovich at imt.net Fri Jul 17 11:50:36 2009 From: benovich at imt.net (Richard Benert) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:50:36 -0600 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Kazapen References: <003c01ca04e9$627c3a00$0500a8c0@richard01> <8CBD302E88C851B-D24-5CA@MBLK-M08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008001ca070f$79954510$0500a8c0@richard01> I thought I had properly thanked Jerry and Otto for trying to help with my Kazapen problem, but I must have clicked on "delete" rather than "send." Anyway, thanks to both. The term seems to have been a slippery one. If anyone comes across it anywhere, please let me know. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: albertmuth at aol.com To: benovich at imt.net ; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Kazapen Hi Dick, Best I can do on short notice is an on-line reference at http://www.z-g-v.de/doku/archiv/rumaenien/kapitel-4-1-1-0-1.htm Do a "find on page search", and you will see that it occurs in this context: Es war ihnen auch gelungen, mit den anderen in Bessarabien siedelnden Bev?lkerungselementen (Moldowaner, Kazapen, Bulgaren, Ukrainer, Gagausen) zu einer freundschaftlichen Lebensgemeinschaft mit Arbeitsteilung (Bulgaren) zu gelangen Also http://www.hannowka.de/Video_Panorama.htm Der Panoramarundblick zeigt das Dorf Hannowka im August 2004. Ein neues Schulgeb?ude ist seit 10 Jahren im Bau. Bis 1940 wohnten im unteren Dorfteil die Deutschen , im oberen die "Kazapen",=2 0Angeh?rige einer russischen Glaubens- richtung. I found these, just googling. But I did restrict the language to German. There are a few other citations worth considering (in Google Books, books that have been scanned). Sorry for not translating, I thought we'd get you straightened out first. The reference usually seems to be in the context of the Bessarabian Germans Al Muth -----Original Message----- From: Richard Benert To: SGGEE Mail List Sent: Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:12 pm Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Kazapen Can anyone give me a good idea of what is or was meant by the term "Kazapen"? I've seen references that make it seem to apply to an ethnic group, a religious sect, or a nasty group of anti-Semites. Thanks for any help. Dick Benert _______________________________________________ Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mail ing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.13.13/2237 - Release Date: 7/14/2009 5:56 AM From benovich at imt.net Fri Jul 17 12:18:41 2009 From: benovich at imt.net (Richard Benert) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:18:41 -0600 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Kazapen Message-ID: <00a501ca0713$66088d50$0500a8c0@richard01> Sorry, I thanked the wrong person for helping with Kazapen. Jerry kindly tells me it was not he. Rather, I should have thanked Al Muth. Sorry, Al. A senior moment? Dick From thejoneses at shaw.ca Thu Jul 23 10:41:10 2009 From: thejoneses at shaw.ca (Carol Jones) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:41:10 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld Message-ID: <434DBF4FF931453F8E8D1AAC6195D37E@GENE> Can anyone tell me where SALZFELD Poland is? Is it anywhere near Kochanow (Erdmannswieler)? Carol Jones researching "Which Wurch/Werch/Wuerch/Wirch/Wuirch is which" From FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca Thu Jul 23 11:30:25 2009 From: FranklySpeaking at shaw.ca (Jerry Frank) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:30:25 -0600 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld In-Reply-To: <434DBF4FF931453F8E8D1AAC6195D37E@GENE> References: <434DBF4FF931453F8E8D1AAC6195D37E@GENE> Message-ID: Actually it would normally be called Neu Salzfeld = Nowosolna, located about 30 km west of Kochanow, on the road between Lodz and Rawa Mazowiecka.? Many Germans settled for a year or two in this region upon arrival from their German home and then moved further east. Unless you are thinking of the original Salzfeld in Germany which would be quite a distance away. Jerry (from Milwaukee, starting to get ready for the convention) ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Jones Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:44 am Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > Can anyone tell me where SALZFELD Poland is?? Is it > anywhere near Kochanow (Erdmannswieler)? > > Carol Jones researching "Which Wurch/Werch/Wuerch/Wirch/Wuirch > is which" > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > From thejoneses at shaw.ca Thu Jul 23 11:40:22 2009 From: thejoneses at shaw.ca (Carol Jones) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:40:22 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld References: <434DBF4FF931453F8E8D1AAC6195D37E@GENE> Message-ID: <89F5BF3B9EE74DFD8164D30E1BC83669@GENE> This was actually regarding the birth of Christoph Friedrich Wuerch who was actually born 6 Mar 1814 in Kochanow (Gluchow parish records). My source for his birth in Salzfeld: Bessarabian Village Birth Records, 1881-85 (R. Drefs), "Born 1812 Salzfeld, Poland". I'll have to look again at the copy of his birth record and see if there is any mention of Salzfeld. Thanks, again, Jerry, and enjoy the Milwaukee convention! Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Frank To: Carol Jones Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld Actually it would normally be called Neu Salzfeld = Nowosolna, located about 30 km west of Kochanow, on the road between Lodz and Rawa Mazowiecka. Many Germans settled for a year or two in this region upon arrival from their German home and then moved further east. Unless you are thinking of the original Salzfeld in Germany which would be quite a distance away. Jerry (from Milwaukee, starting to get ready for the convention) ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Jones Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:44 am Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > Can anyone tell me where SALZFELD Poland is? Is it > anywhere near Kochanow (Erdmannswieler)? > > Carol Jones researching "Which Wurch/Werch/Wuerch/Wirch/Wuirch > is which" > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > From zsorba99 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 23 12:24:53 2009 From: zsorba99 at yahoo.com (Allyn Brosz) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:24:53 -0400 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld --> Sulzfeld/Neu-Sulzfeld/Nowosolna Message-ID: Actually, Nowosolna is/was also known as Neu-Sulzfeld (with a "u") and the original village is Sulzfeld in Baden-W?rttemberg. The linkage between these two villages is discussed in the German-language Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulzfeld_(Baden). Best Wishes Allyn Brosz > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Jerry Frank > To: Carol Jones > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:30:25 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld > Actually it would normally be called Neu Salzfeld = Nowosolna, located > about 30 km west of Kochanow, on the road between Lodz and Rawa Mazowiecka. > Many Germans settled for a year or two in this region upon arrival from > their German home and then moved further east. > > Unless you are thinking of the original Salzfeld in Germany which would be > quite a distance away. > > > Jerry (from Milwaukee, starting to get ready for the convention) > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carol Jones > Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:44 am > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > > > Can anyone tell me where SALZFELD Poland is? Is it > > anywhere near Kochanow (Erdmannswieler)? > > > > Carol Jones researching "Which Wurch/Werch/Wuerch/Wirch/Wuirch > > is which" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Carol Jones" > To: "Jerry Frank" > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:40:22 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld > This was actually regarding the birth of Christoph Friedrich Wuerch who was > actually born 6 Mar 1814 in Kochanow (Gluchow parish records). My source > for his birth in Salzfeld: Bessarabian Village Birth Records, 1881-85 (R. > Drefs), "Born 1812 Salzfeld, Poland". I'll have to look again at the copy > of his birth record and see if there is any mention of Salzfeld. > > Thanks, again, Jerry, and enjoy the Milwaukee convention! > > Carol > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jerry Frank > To: Carol Jones > Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld > > > Actually it would normally be called Neu Salzfeld = Nowosolna, located > about 30 km west of Kochanow, on the road between Lodz and Rawa Mazowiecka. > Many Germans settled for a year or two in this region upon arrival from > their German home and then moved further east. > > Unless you are thinking of the original Salzfeld in Germany which would be > quite a distance away. > > > Jerry (from Milwaukee, starting to get ready for the convention) > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carol Jones > Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:44 am > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > > > Can anyone tell me where SALZFELD Poland is? Is it > > anywhere near Kochanow (Erdmannswieler)? > > > > Carol Jones researching "Which Wurch/Werch/Wuerch/Wirch/Wuirch > > is which" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia mailing list, hosted by the: > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv.html > > -- Alternate E-mail Address allyn.brosz at gmail.com My Yahoo address is still primary zsorba99 at yahoo.com From thejoneses at shaw.ca Thu Jul 23 12:34:52 2009 From: thejoneses at shaw.ca (Carol Jones) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:34:52 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld --> Sulzfeld/Neu-Sulzfeld/Nowosolna References: Message-ID: <1765B77FF38C440DA371DDB4767223DD@GENE> I've seen references to Sulzfeld and wondered if Salzfeld and Sulzfeld were the same place. Thanks. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allyn Brosz" To: Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:24 PM Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld --> Sulzfeld/Neu-Sulzfeld/Nowosolna Actually, Nowosolna is/was also known as Neu-Sulzfeld (with a "u") and the original village is Sulzfeld in Baden-W?rttemberg. The linkage between these two villages is discussed in the German-language Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulzfeld_(Baden). Best Wishes Allyn Brosz > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Jerry Frank > To: Carol Jones > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:30:25 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld > Actually it would normally be called Neu Salzfeld = Nowosolna, located > about 30 km west of Kochanow, on the road between Lodz and Rawa > Mazowiecka. > Many Germans settled for a year or two in this region upon arrival from > their German home and then moved further east. > > Unless you are thinking of the original Salzfeld in Germany which would be > quite a distance away. > > > Jerry (from Milwaukee, starting to get ready for the convention) > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carol Jones > Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:44 am > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > > > Can anyone tell me where SALZFELD Poland is? Is it > > anywhere near Kochanow (Erdmannswieler)? > > > > Carol Jones researching "Which Wurch/Werch/Wuerch/Wirch/Wuirch > > is which" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Carol Jones" > To: "Jerry Frank" > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:40:22 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld > This was actually regarding the birth of Christoph Friedrich Wuerch who > was > actually born 6 Mar 1814 in Kochanow (Gluchow parish records). My source > for his birth in Salzfeld: Bessarabian Village Birth Records, 1881-85 (R. > Drefs), "Born 1812 Salzfeld, Poland". I'll have to look again at the copy > of his birth record and see if there is any mention of Salzfeld. > > Thanks, again, Jerry, and enjoy the Milwaukee convention! > > Carol > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jerry Frank > To: Carol Jones > Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld > > > Actually it would normally be called Neu Salzfeld = Nowosolna, located > about 30 km west of Kochanow, on the road between Lodz and Rawa > Mazowiecka. > Many Germans settled for a year or two in this region upon arrival from > their German home and then moved further east. > > Unless you are thinking of the original Salzfeld in Germany which would > be > quite a distance away. > > > Jerry (from Milwaukee, starting to get ready for the convention) > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carol Jones > Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:44 am > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > > > Can anyone tell me where SALZFELD Poland is? Is it > > anywhere near Kochanow (Erdmannswieler)? > > > > Carol Jones researching "Which Wurch/Werch/Wuerch/Wirch/Wuirch > > is which" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia mailing list, hosted by the: > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv.html > > -- Alternate E-mail Address allyn.brosz at gmail.com My Yahoo address is still primary zsorba99 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv From cgschott at comcast.net Thu Jul 23 17:14:37 2009 From: cgschott at comcast.net (Carolyn Schott) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:14:37 -0700 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm guessing you got that reference off the Bessarabian St. Pete film index? You probably know this, but images of those records are online if you want to check the original. http://labs.familysearch.org/ (Click on Record Search; Click on Asia & Middle East; Click Russian Lutheran Church Book Duplicates) Or since it sounds like the family ended up in Bessarabia, if you need suggestions on Bessarabian records to search, let me know. Carolyn Schott > >Message: 3 >Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:40:22 -0500 >From: "Carol Jones" >Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld >To: "Jerry Frank" >Cc: albertmuth at aol.com, ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org >Message-ID: <89F5BF3B9EE74DFD8164D30E1BC83669 at GENE> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >This was actually regarding the birth of Christoph Friedrich >Wuerch who was actually born 6 Mar 1814 in Kochanow (Gluchow >parish records). My source for his birth in Salzfeld: >Bessarabian Village Birth Records, 1881-85 (R. Drefs), "Born >1812 Salzfeld, Poland". I'll have to look again at the copy >of his birth record and see if there is any mention of Salzfeld. > >Thanks, again, Jerry, and enjoy the Milwaukee convention! > >Carol > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jerry Frank > To: Carol Jones > Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld > > > Actually it would normally be called Neu Salzfeld = >Nowosolna, located about 30 km west of Kochanow, on the road >between Lodz and Rawa Mazowiecka. Many Germans settled for a >year or two in this region upon arrival from their German home >and then moved further east. > > Unless you are thinking of the original Salzfeld in Germany >which would be quite a distance away. > > > Jerry (from Milwaukee, starting to get ready for the convention) > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carol Jones > Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:44 am > Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld > To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > > > Can anyone tell me where SALZFELD Poland is? Is it > > anywhere near Kochanow (Erdmannswieler)? > > > > Carol Jones researching "Which Wurch/Werch/Wuerch/Wirch/Wuirch > > is which" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Ger-Poland-Volhynia mailing list, hosted by the: >Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe >http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at >http://www.sggee.org/listserv.html > > >End of Ger-Poland-Volhynia Digest, Vol 74, Issue 12 >*************************************************** From roseingram at shaw.ca Thu Jul 23 22:16:09 2009 From: roseingram at shaw.ca (Rose Ingram) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:16:09 -0700 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld References: <434DBF4FF931453F8E8D1AAC6195D37E@GENE> <89F5BF3B9EE74DFD8164D30E1BC83669@GENE> Message-ID: <007d01ca0c1d$da9dccc0$6601a8c0@duocore> Carol Christoph Friedrich may have born in Konchanow. The family many have moved to Neu Salzfeld = Nowosolna when he was an infant or small child and grew up there, hence thinking he was born in Neu Salzfeld or Salzfeld. I have not been to find the record with the reference "Born 1812 Salzfeld, Poland". Rose Ingram ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Jones To: Jerry Frank Cc: albertmuth at aol.com ; ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld This was actually regarding the birth of Christoph Friedrich Wuerch who was actually born 6 Mar 1814 in Kochanow (Gluchow parish records). My source for his birth in Salzfeld: Bessarabian Village Birth Records, 1881-85 (R. Drefs), "Born 1812 Salzfeld, Poland". I'll have to look again at the copy of his birth record and see if there is any mention of Salzfeld. Thanks, again, Jerry, and enjoy the Milwaukee convention! Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Frank To: Carol Jones Cc: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld Actually it would normally be called Neu Salzfeld = Nowosolna, located about 30 km west of Kochanow, on the road between Lodz and Rawa Mazowiecka. Many Germans settled for a year or two in this region upon arrival from their German home and then moved further east. Unless you are thinking of the original Salzfeld in Germany which would be quite a distance away. Jerry (from Milwaukee, starting to get ready for the convention) ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Jones Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:44 am Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Salzfeld To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org > Can anyone tell me where SALZFELD Poland is? Is it > anywhere near Kochanow (Erdmannswieler)? > > Carol Jones researching "Which Wurch/Werch/Wuerch/Wirch/Wuirch > is which" > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv > _______________________________________________ Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv From edies_hook at msn.com Mon Jul 27 16:44:06 2009 From: edies_hook at msn.com (Edith McKelvy) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:44:06 -0700 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Location/information re PETROULD RUSSIA Message-ID: I am seeking location/information about PETROULD RUSSIA as shown in Detroit Border Crossings 1905-1957 below: Name: August Rempel Arrival Date: 22 Dec 1933 Birthplace: PETROULD Birth Country: Russia or Prussia Where is Petrould located? Is it a port city for immigration to America? Many thnx, Edith Rimple McKelvy edies_hook at msn.com From roseingram at shaw.ca Mon Jul 27 17:22:58 2009 From: roseingram at shaw.ca (Rose Ingram) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:22:58 -0700 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Location/information re PETROULD RUSSIA References: Message-ID: <000901ca0f19$8f269570$6601a8c0@duocore> Edith, I would say the birth place is Petronitz Russia. Rose Ingram ----- Original Message ----- From: Edith McKelvy To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Location/information re PETROULD RUSSIA I am seeking location/information about PETROULD RUSSIA as shown in Detroit Border Crossings 1905-1957 below: Name: August Rempel Arrival Date: 22 Dec 1933 Birthplace: PETROULD Birth Country: Russia or Prussia Where is Petrould located? Is it a port city for immigration to America? Many thnx, Edith Rimple McKelvy edies_hook at msn.com From roseingram at shaw.ca Mon Jul 27 18:43:58 2009 From: roseingram at shaw.ca (Rose Ingram) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:43:58 -0700 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Location/information re PETROULD RUSSIA References: <000901ca0f19$8f269570$6601a8c0@duocore> Message-ID: <002601ca0f24$dffba250$6601a8c0@duocore> Edith, I wish to revise my statement. I had a closer look at the original record and believe it to be Petrowitz. Rose Ingram From: Rose Ingram Edith, I would say the birth place is Petronitz Russia. Rose Ingram ----- Original Message ----- From: Edith McKelvy To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Location/information re PETROULD RUSSIA I am seeking location/information about PETROULD RUSSIA as shown in Detroit Border Crossings 1905-1957 below: Name: August Rempel Arrival Date: 22 Dec 1933 Birthplace: PETROULD Birth Country: Russia or Prussia Where is Petrould located? Is it a port city for immigration to America? Many thnx, Edith Rimple McKelvy edies_hook at msn.com From mschmie at prodigy.net Tue Jul 28 13:06:16 2009 From: mschmie at prodigy.net (MSchmied) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:06:16 +0000 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Thank You RE: Convention Message-ID: <072820092006.17101.4A6F5A370009B7BE000042CD22230647029B0A02D29709070B019D9FBF0A0703080C9C03@att.net> I've just returned from the convention in Milwaukee and want to say Thank You to everyone involved in planning this event. It was a big undertaking I'm sure. The presentations I attended were informative, enjoyable, interesting ....a big "hand" to all the presenters. Thank you to all who brought research material, maps, books, etc. A big thank you especially to Howard K., Gary W., Jerry F. for their help in answering questions, locating towns, etc. I appreciated your help very much. The only negative I came home with was that records for my "research areas" were not available or are not being filmed and probably will not be for quite a while. I was hoping to hear otherwise...oh well, I'll keep waiting and searching. Thanks again, Margaret Schmieding SGGEE Member SW Michigan From mackzie at earthlink.net Tue Jul 28 14:45:43 2009 From: mackzie at earthlink.net (Beth Burke) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:45:43 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Thank You RE: Convention In-Reply-To: <072820092006.17101.4A6F5A370009B7BE000042CD22230647029B0A02D29709070B019D9FBF0A0703080C9C03@att.net> References: <072820092006.17101.4A6F5A370009B7BE000042CD22230647029B0A02D29709070B019D9FBF0A0703080C9C03@att.net> Message-ID: <001001ca0fcc$c386d920$4a948b60$@net> Ditto regarding the recent convention. This was my first, and given that I live about 100 miles from Milwaukee, I had no legitimate excuse not to go! I got what I expected - a very nice group of people who are as nuts about genealogy as I am. I came away with new ideas, new leads, and I can't wait to research a few new areas. Now if I could just arrange to have 10 more hours each day, I would have time to track down new leads from information that I learned at the convention! Given that I am still a novice when it comes to genealogy, I must say I was pleasantly surprised at how approachable everyone was, especially those that I would consider to be genealogy experts! I have so much yet to learn, but know that if I have questions along the way, there will always be people that I can get advice from! Thank you again for the hard work and dedication that the organizers put forth for the convention! I had a wonderful time! Beth Burke Verona, Wisconsin Patiently waiting anything and everything that will come out of the Lublin extractions -----Original Message----- From: ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org [mailto:ger-poland-volhynia-bounces at eclipse.sggee.org] On Behalf Of MSchmied Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:06 PM To: ger-poland-volhynia at eclipse.sggee.org Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Thank You RE: Convention I've just returned from the convention in Milwaukee and want to say Thank You to everyone involved in planning this event. It was a big undertaking I'm sure. The presentations I attended were informative, enjoyable, interesting ....a big "hand" to all the presenters. Thank you to all who brought research material, maps, books, etc. A big thank you especially to Howard K., Gary W., Jerry F. for their help in answering questions, locating towns, etc. I appreciated your help very much. The only negative I came home with was that records for my "research areas" were not available or are not being filmed and probably will not be for quite a while. I was hoping to hear otherwise...oh well, I'll keep waiting and searching. Thanks again, Margaret Schmieding SGGEE Member SW Michigan _______________________________________________ Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv From iabram at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 31 03:57:46 2009 From: iabram at sbcglobal.net (Ingrid Abram) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] SIBERIA Message-ID: <769045.68148.qm@web180203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> The New Yorker, August 3, 2009 issue has a remarkable article by Ian Frazier entitled "Travels in Siberia-1".? He journeys over the Ural mountains, along the?Convicts' Road, visits the death place of the Czar, recounts the history and geography of this vast area of earth.? Highly recommend reading what this gifted author has to say. ? Some pictures can be viewed on the New Yorker web site. ? From thejoneses at shaw.ca Fri Jul 31 12:01:04 2009 From: thejoneses at shaw.ca (Carol Jones) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:01:04 -0500 Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Musziks References: <00dd01c933a2$7d9cb3f0$6501a8c0@DonMiller> Message-ID: <3EB3340B0786453ABC275EA8E2E27D86@GENE> A branch of my Wuerch ancestors were described as coming from "Mujikland", and since there is no such place, I guess it was meant that they came 'from the land of the Musziks'. I wouldn't think they were describing themselves in a derogatory way. Carol Jones researching "Which Wurch/Werch/Wuerch/Wirch/Wuirch is which" www.whichwxxrchiswhich.info ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Miller" To: "Volhnia Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:28 PM Subject: [Ger-Poland-Volhynia] Musziks > My mother and father who immigrated to Canada from the Zhitomir region on > January 5, 1927 (before the "Communist louts" settled in) often talked > about the Musziks. They referred to them as "socially backward' Russian > Ukrainians, who were not very motivated to work. "All they did," my > father used to say "is drink and dance." > > don miller > > _______________________________________________ > Ger-Poland-Volhynia Mailing List hosted by > Society for German Genealogy in Eastern Europe http://www.sggee.org > Mailing list info at http://www.sggee.org/listserv